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LDR vs Phototransistor?
« on: September 24, 2009, 08:20:36 AM »
Need your comment mga masters,

I'm creating a toy project(yipeee ;D). Yung typical laser alarm na nakikita nyo sa movie na nagwawala pagnacut ang ilaw.

Ang kailangan ko lang is something like a switch na mago-off pag na-cut ang ilaw and it is supplied by 1.5V cell. Ordinary laser pointer(yung LED ang laman) lang gagamitin ko light source.

Pinagiisipan ko between LDR and phototransistor kung ano mas maganda gamitin in terms of cost at performance (response time).

Any idea ba magkano mga yun?

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LDR vs Phototransistor?
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2009, 08:53:20 AM »
photo transistor siguro ok(di ko alam kung gano kabilis yung pag natrip ng paa takbo or lakad or what) or photodiode if want faster response time.. but I think phototransistor will do.. basta tingnan u lang kung san wavelength sensitive yung nabili mu.. LDR is too slow millisecond ang response time nyan.. yungnabili ku nun LDR sa alexan eh pag nagattach ka ng analog multimeter dahan dahan bumababa tumataas(pag binubuksan ko yun bintana..walang capacitor yun na nakaatach.. hehehe

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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2009, 09:01:32 AM »
ganon ba? hmm, salamat sa input, that leaves mo no choice pala but to use phototransistor.

kailangan ko pa naman ng mabilis na response kasi may capacitor ako na tsinacharge pag nagopen ang transistor at dapat mafull charge yun agad sa duration na cut ang ilaw.
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2009, 09:32:17 AM »
Need your comment mga masters,

I'm creating a toy project(yipeee ;D). Yung typical laser alarm na nakikita nyo sa movie na nagwawala pagnacut ang ilaw.

Ang kailangan ko lang is something like a switch na mago-off pag na-cut ang ilaw and it is supplied by 1.5V cell. Ordinary laser pointer(yung LED ang laman) lang gagamitin ko light source.

Pinagiisipan ko between LDR and phototransistor kung ano mas maganda gamitin in terms of cost at performance (response time).

Any idea ba magkano mga yun?



phototransistor siyempre .. yung L14C (wide angle flat window) 120 pesos sa Farnell .. in Alexan, very common yung WPT-440F http://www.electronicslab.ph/2008/09/25/alexans-wpt-440f-phototransistor/  ..
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2009, 09:59:31 AM »
phototransistor siyempre .. yung L14C (wide angle flat window) 120 pesos sa Farnell .. in Alexan, very common yung WPT-440F http://www.electronicslab.ph/2008/09/25/alexans-wpt-440f-phototransistor/  ..

aw!!!, tumataginting price, di bagay paglaruan,  ;D

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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2009, 10:05:52 AM »
IIRC 15 petot lang yung WPT-440F sa alexan ;D
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2009, 10:10:59 AM »
IIRC 15 petot lang yung WPT-440F sa alexan ;D

ayos, tamang tama lang price ;D

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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2009, 02:31:52 PM »

aside from the given choices, i think you should also consider the photo-diode.. it has faster response than the photo-transistor.. but the photo-transistor has the advantage of "amplification" especially for current amplification in BJT's as well as the advantage of "normal diode" ..

The LDR changes only in resistance in accordance with the light intensity strike on it.. but they are also reliable and cost-effective.. however, "photo-transistor" is a better recommendation..
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2009, 04:19:47 PM »
oo nga pwede rin photo diode, ang problema eh IR lang photodiode na available sa alexan nung tiningnan ko catalog nila kaya di ko sya isinama.

Kasi ordinary laser pointer gagamitin ko light source.

Medyo kuripot nga pala ako sa design ko I want to keep cost as low as possible (<100 petot), 6 components lang gagamitin ko at 3 semiconductor lang (a diode, transistor, at photodetector). ;D
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2009, 04:47:55 PM »
for me   i highly   recommend  the phototransistor  rather dan a  LDR

alam nmn  natin  na masxadong  prone  to error ang LDR kasi  nagbabaseee  lng  ito  sa light ambience  ng area kng masxadong  maliwanag  cgurado  magkakaproblema  at  kng masxado  nmn  madilim  another  problem nmn   yun   defende  nlng  sa design lalo na sa enclosure..
at  saka  mas delay ang response ng LDR  rather dan sa Phototransistor

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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 05:42:02 PM »
checked the price of the of phototransistor, around 15petot lang samantalang ang LDR ay around 30petot.

ang inabot na price ng project ko ay 23petot IIRC. Ipost ko pag naayos ko na documentation.

at may bago ako improvement na gagawin in terms of effieciency and cost  :o :o :o. (yup cost, namamahalan pa ako sa 23petot,hehehe)

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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2009, 06:04:41 PM »
napuna nyo ba spectral sensitivity graph nung WPT440F?

nasa infrared range (around 800nm nakacenter ang max sensitivity) na sya? kaya naman pala hindi sya masyado nagrereact sa ambient light at ok naman sa laser pointer ko (which is RED LED)

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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2009, 07:48:00 PM »
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2009, 10:15:40 PM »
kung sa kamurahan at kadalian hanapin at mabilis na response, pwede ba magdagdag sa options? ;D yung ordinary LED ;D kung gagamit naman kayo ng IR pwede yung IR emmiter led ng mga remote control as a sensor :)
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2009, 10:22:18 AM »
ahah!!! photodetector nga pala ang ordinary LED, pwede sya gamitin as light sensor.

Not sure lang kung mapapadali circuit ko.
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2009, 10:24:05 AM »
ahah!!! photodetector nga pala ang ordinary LED, pwede sya gamitin as light sensor.

Not sure lang kung mapapadali circuit ko.

isang transistor lang sir :)
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2009, 10:29:42 AM »
isang transistor lang sir :)

Check mo circuit sa blog ko, andun sa signature yung link.

kung magdadagdag ako ng LED + transistor + biasing resistors, halos pangabot na rin cost kung gagamit ng phototransistor worth 15petot.

Di ko pa sure kung kakasya, anyway pagisipan ko kung paano gagamitin yan.  ;)
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2009, 11:04:51 AM »
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Re: LDR vs Phototransistor?
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2009, 11:09:58 AM »
Check mo circuit sa blog ko, andun sa signature yung link.

kung magdadagdag ako ng LED + transistor + biasing resistors, halos pangabot na rin cost kung gagamit ng phototransistor worth 15petot.

Di ko pa sure kung kakasya, anyway pagisipan ko kung paano gagamitin yan.  ;)

3 petot lang bili ko ng 2N3904 sa alexan :)
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