Is our ECE license still important? I really hope so....for your comments

[mAgtataHO]

License still required by

1. some other reputable companies (Pogi points fr their company profile)
2. projects that needs to be certified by an engineer..
   (too bad most of them sa telecom, IT & broadcast lng. wala naman cgurong sa paghihinang ng electronics parts required to be certified by licensed ECE)
3. sa pag-aapply ng LOan (kailangan daw PRC ID as per other banks...hehehe)
4. Still needed to boost our confidence as well.

Yun lang.. i been working for 4 years hindi ko pa nagagamit ang license ko.hayyy gumastos pa ko sa pag REnew.

[rdpzycho]

Citibank, secondary ID lang ang PRC ID natin.

pero at least sa iba valid at Primary siya. kaya Driver's License plus PRC ID = 2 valid ID's.

[Nics_Vendor]

Nature and Scope of Practice of Electronics Engineering and Electronics Technician Professions.

(a) The scope and nature of practice of the Electronics Engineer shall embrace and consist of any work or activity relating to the application of engineering sciences and/or principles to the investigation, analysis, synthesis, planning, design, specification, research and development, provision, procurement, marketing and sales, manufacture and production, construction and installation, tests/measurements/control, operation, repair, servicing, technical support and maintenance of electronic components, devices, products, apparatus, instruments, equipment, systems, networks, operations and processes in the fields of electronics, including communications and/or telecommunications, information and communications technology (ICT), computers and their networking and hardware/firmware/software development and applications, broadcast/broadcasting, cable and wireless television, consumer and industrial electronics, electro-optics/photonics/opto-electronics, electro-magnetics, avionics, aerospace, navigational and military applications, medical electronics, robotics, cybernetics, biometrics and all other related and convergent fields; it also includes the administration, management, supervision and regulatory aspects of such works and activities; similarly included are those teaching and training activities which develop the ability to use electronic engineering fundamentals and related advanced knowledge in electronics engineering, including lecturing and teaching of technical and professional subjects given in the electronics engineering and electronics technician curriculum and licensure examinations.

(b) The scope and nature of practice of the Professional Electronics Engineer shall embrace and consist of all of the above plus the sole authority to provide consulting services as defined in this Act and to sign and seal electronics plans, drawings, permit applications, specifications, reports and other technical documents prepared by himself/herself and/or under his direct supervision. KAYA PIRMA MO LANG MAHAL NA!!

(c) The scope and nature of practice of the Electronics Technician profession shall embrace and consist of any non-engineering work or activity relating to the installation, construction, operation, control, tests and measurements, diagnosis, repair and maintenance, manufacture and production, sales and marketing of any electronic component/s, device/s, products, apparatus, instruments, equipment, system/s, network/s, operations and processes located on land, watercraft, aircraft, industrial plants or commercial establishments, including the teaching and training of technical and professional subjects given in the electronics technician curriculum and licensure examinations.

[Nics_Vendor]

Para naman sa mga license ECE na matagal na sa service..


Section 18. Qualifications and Schedule of Registration for Professional Electronics Engineer. - For application for registration as a Professional Electronics Engineer, the following shall be required:

(a) Valid Certificate of Registration and Professional Identification Card as Electronics Engineer;

(b) Valid/current membership identification card from the Accredited Professional Organization;

(c) Certified experience record of active self-practice and/or employment either in government service or in the private sector, in the format to be prescribed by the Board, indicating the inclusive dates, companies worked for, description of specific responsibilities, relevant accomplishments and name, position of immediate supervisors for a period of at least seven (7) years (inclusive and/or aggregate), at least two (2) years of which are in responsible charge of significant engineering work, from the date applicant took his/her oath as an Electronics and Communications Engineer or Electronics Engineer;

(d) Three (3) certifications signed by three (3) Professional Electronics Engineers attesting that the experience record submitted by the applicant is factual.

Applications for registration as Professional Electronics Engineer may be submitted anytime to the Commission. The Board shall then schedule an en banc oral interview of the applicant for the purpose of verifying, authenticating and assessing the submittals and establishing the competency of the applicant according to rules, regulations and competency standards to be formulated by the Board: Provided, That those who have been registered and licensed as Electronics and Communications Engineers under Republic Act No. 5734 for at least seven (7) years upon the effectivity of this Act need only to submit items (a), (b), and (c) above: Provided, further, That those who have been registered and licensed as Electronics and Communications Engineers under Republic Act No. 5734 for less than seven (7) years after the effectivity of this Act shall submit their certified experience records and certifications from three (3) Professional Electronics Engineers as in items (c) and (d) above, and submit to an en banc oral interview of the Board for competency assessment, upon passing of which he can be registered as a Professional Electronics Engineer.

[Nics_Vendor]

@dy7flt

bad news yan sa mga technicians na napromote as engineers... marami kasi sa amin dito ang mga techicians na napromote because of superb skills and their way of thinking... saan mo nakuha yang balitang yan?

sa mga technicians na promote as engineers siguro sa company pinasukan nya pede iyon tawagin engineer secret d pede pag kalat. or doon sa business card nya wala dapat un Engr. Juan Dela Cruz dapat Mr. Juan Dela Cruz lang.

The following shall be punished by a fine of not less than One hundred thousand pesos (P100,000.00) nor more than One million pesos (P1,000,000.00), or by imprisonment of not less than six (6) months nor more than six (6) years, or both, in the discretion of the court:

(a) Any person who shall give any false or fraudulent statement to the Board to obtain a Certificate of Registration and/or Professional Identification Card as Professional Electronics Engineer, Electronics Engineer or Electronics Technician;

(b) Any person who shall present or use as his/her own a Certificate of Registration, Professional Identification Card, membership identification card in the Accredited Professional Organization and/or seal issued to another and any person who allows the use of his/her Certificate of Registration, Professional Identification Card, membership card in the Accredited Professional Organization and/or seal;

(c) Any person who shall present or use a revoked or suspended Certificate of Registration as Professional Electronics Engineer, Electronics Engineer or Electronics Technician;

(d) Any person who shall assume, use, advertise or otherwise practice as Professional Electronics Engineer, Electronics Engineer or Electronics Technician, or append to his/her name, any letter/s or words tending to convey the impression that he/she is a registered Professional Electronics Engineer, Electronics Engineer or Electronics Technician, when in fact he/she is not duly registered with the Board as such;

(e) Any Professional Electronics Engineer, or any person on his/her behalf, who shall stamp or seal any document with his/her seal as such after his/her Certificate of Registration, Professional Identification Card and membership card in the Accredited Professional Organization has been revoked or suspended or after he/she has been suspended from practice or removed from the roster of Professional Electronics Engineer, Electronics Engineers or Electronics Technicians;

(f) Any Professional Electronics Engineer who shall sign his/her name, affix his/her seal, or use any other method of signature on plans, technical descriptions or other documents prepared by or under the supervision of another Professional Electronics Engineer, unless the same is prepared in such manner as to clearly indicate the part of such work actually performed by the former;

(g) Any person, except the Professional Electronics Engineer or Electronics Engineer in-charge, who shall sign for any electronics engineering work, or any function of electronics engineering practice, not actually performed by him/her;

(h) Any person holding a Certificate of Registration and Professional Identification Card as Professional Electronics Engineer, Electronics Engineer or Electronics Technician who shall be involved in illegal wire-tapping, cloning, hacking, cracking, piracy and/or other forms of unauthorized and malicious electronic eavesdropping and/or the use of any electronic devices in violation of the privacy of another or in disregard of the privilege of private communications and/or safety to life, physical and/or intellectual property of others, or who shall maintain an unlicensed and/or unregistered communications system or device; and

(i) Any person who shall violate any provision of this Act or any rules, regulations, the Code of Ethics and the Code of Technical Standards of Practice promulgated under this Act.

[dy7flt]

ei may tanong ako para sa mga skillful people, i know that this is a stupid question....

paano mo ba maacquire ang skill?

Lahat ng skills (manipulative, managerial, mathematical atbp), siyempre it can be acquired and mastered thru constant practice or experience.  Kong isasama natin pati values siyempre kailangan ng love of work, dedication, patience, devotion, positive outlook, atbp para makamit natin ito.  Dati, may kasamahan ako sa trabaho, walang duda magaling cya, masipag din.  Pero pag aabutin ng sumpong mga tools kong saan-saan ihahagis, kinakalaban pati supervisor at iba pang mga negative attitudes.  Kong ganito attitude natin balewala yong mga skills na namastered natin.  Master nga natin networking dahil CCNA 1 to 4 certified tayo at ECE license pa pero suplado naman tayo sa mga kasamahan natin, hindi natin sinishare knowledge natin dahil takot tayo na malamangan, abay! magtayo na lang tayo ng sarili nating companya sa isang isla na tayo ang may-ari, tayo ang manager, tayo ang supervisor, tayo ang employee at lahat ng gawain tayo ang gagawa!

[Kid Kulafu]

ECE license is overrated. Its all about skills!!

i would trade my license (as well as the PRC ID) in exchange for
1. Born2bewired's expertise on RF design
2. Motion55's digital and analog design skill as well as MCU programming
3. 7String's PCB design skill
4. Glutnix_neo's SMPS design expertise
5. Zerow1ng's MCU-based design experiences
6. etc

SKILLS! Give me SKILLS or give me death hehe


*andrama ko no! 

 

Sir! Kailangan mo rin ng certification papers/ID to support your skills. Mahirap pag kwento lang dala mo when you apply. 

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Ewan ko nga ba!!! Saan ba tayo Licensed?  

Nong nagwork ako sa isang private foreign based company ang Operation Manager namin ay high school grad lang na foriegner with 35 years nga lang na experience hehehehe sabon kaming lahat pagnagkamali 

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having a license is really good kasi advantage yan pagdating ng panahon (siguro)... pero minsan nagugulat na lang ako na may mga magagaling dati sa company na pinapasukan ko pero di sila licensed... patunay lang na wala sa lisensya ang skills at nasa tao pa rin yan...

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having a license is really good kasi advantage yan pagdating ng panahon (siguro)... pero minsan nagugulat na lang ako na may mga magagaling dati sa company na pinapasukan ko pero di sila licensed... patunay lang na wala sa lisensya ang skills at nasa tao pa rin yan...

kalimitan nga sa private foreign companies parang ganon nga, actual performance at work professionalism yata ang tinitingnan nila....mi kasama din akong Eng'g Tech pa kami noon, sa Timex naman siya, naging manager siya in 3 years time lang, under niya lahat ang mga supervisors at engineers....

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kalimitan nga sa private foreign companies parang ganon nga, actual performance at work professionalism yata ang tinitingnan nila....mi kasama din akong Eng'g Tech pa kami noon, sa Timex naman siya, naging manager siya in 3 years time lang, under niya lahat ang mga supervisors at engineers....

actually sa akin fair enough yang ganyan... tulad ng sa pinoy big brother, at least ang lahat ay nabibigyan ng chance na patunayan ang sarili nila.

[quistiun]

pag fresh grad siguro may advantage ang license, pero pag may experience ka na, ung skills at experience ang mas importante. yung license ko di ko nagagamit. wala na din ako balak na mag upgrade o mag convert gastos lang yan. nasa semicon/electronics industry kasi ako, wala naman ako balak lumipat sa broadcasting o telecom, mas malaki ang opportunity pag nasa semicon/electronics field ka, mas marami ka pwede lipatan na company. malaki din ang bigayan kung marunong kang maghanap

[qhryz]

Nung bagong grad pa ako, at fresh ECE board passer nahirapan talaga ako maghanap ng trabaho.  Nung mag-apply ako sa mga broadcasting at telecommunication companies tiningnan kaagad yung mga grades ko nung college.  Dahil medyo mababa yung mga grades ko expected ko na talagang di ako makukuha at sa awa ng diyos di nga ako natanggap.  So nag-try ako sa manufacturing at dun tanggap kaagad ako dahil medyo nalalapit ang course ko sa electronic manufacturing.  Syempre angat ako sa mga nakasabay kong na-interview, licensed mechanical engineers at yung isa civil engineering grad.  Sa interview naitanong nila kung meron akong kakilala na nag-wowork sa company na yun, sinabi ko na meron at nasa hindi kataasang pwesto pero well known sa buong company.  Yun din ang nag-invite sa akin na mag-apply dun na schoolmate ko dati slash anak ng dating manager ng tatay ko.  At natanggap nga ako, ngayon napatanong ako sa sarili kung yung pagiging licensed ECE ko ba o yung naging reference ko yung nakapagpasok sa kin sa trabaho.   

Kaya ngayon hindi ko pa napaparenew yung id ko sa PRC more than 3 years na, mukha naman kasing wala nang pakinabang hindi naman hinahanap kung licensed ka o hindi.  Saka para kasing bumaba yung license natin, nawala na yung "Communication".  Nakapag-abroad na rin ako, guess what, hindi din kelangan kung licensed ka.  Hinahanap ngayon ang experience and skills talaga.

[Systems_007]

In my case guys... here in broadcasting not all positions require the license more particularly sa mga entry level positions.  Right now I work as a master control operator sa TOC, no bearing/weight yung license pare-parehas lang kami ng level ng mga non-license dito unless otherwise you are in transmitter or repeater stations(regional stations etc.)

[0b00000111]

Hinahanap ngayon ang experience and skills talaga.

yan din ang sabi sa akin pag nag-abroad... yung kakilala ko nga di pa tapos pero grabe na sa yaman ngayon, nasa intel siya sa US (di ko sure kung saang state)...

[rdpzycho]

may kakilala rin ako na napasok sa Intel ng undergraduate, simula sa tech hanggang sa mataas na position. nung lumipat sa International Rectifier 2x ng sweldo sa Intel ang offer sa kanya.

[kazuya014]

... i'm no ECE person or whatever i'm just a plain business student...

yup, skill is very important..ananhin mo lisensya mo kng wala ka naman skills dba? an aquiantance of mine graduated from ABIS (Bachelor of Arts in International Studies) landed a job in accenture...his job title is software engineer... yup he's quite skilled alright tsk tsk tsk...

i don't even have skills!!! i only know how to compute...when i fic my pc i don't even know the parts of the CPU i just tinker with this and that then the device is fixed lolz

I want skillz TT.TT

[danny]

yup hehehe 
importante talaga yang skill na yan

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Sa akin lang yong license natin is a government imposed licensed, with corresponding duties and responsibility to go with it, anything that you do that envolves the public then our licensed is needed.

But when it comes to private companies that do business by its own private operation, i think our licensed dont have that validity...they all have the rights for the good interest of their company. Licensed or not for the good of the company is their first priority.

As they always say "You are not paid by what you know, but your are paid for what you've done for the company" thats it they always go for the output.

[dy7flt]

Kong talagang gusto nating malaman kong importante pa ang license natin o hindi, gumawa tayo ng malaking kapalpakan sa trabaho natin pati na mga non license gumawa rin kayo ng malaking kapalpakan, Kong sa isang companya kayo, licensed at non-license sabay nyong gawin ang isang malaking kapalpakan, tapos tingan natin kong sino ang mas kawawa, yong license ba o ang hindi licensed.  Kong malalaman na natin kong sino yong mas kawawa at hindi masyadong kawawa, sa palagay ko saka natin malaman kong kailangan pa ba ang license o hindi na.