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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2009, 04:37:09 PM »
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yung properly tuned na carburator hindi ganyan, depende parin pala sa magkakabit pala ng turbo kung lalakas ng konsumo

kung ang carburetor mo ay well tuned up it good pero iba parin ang may turbo kasi mas bibilis ang engine response + HP sa engine mo iba pa rin talaga pag naka turbo marami na akong try to improve sa engine pero still iba pa rin ang naka turbo kaya nga ang mga heavy equipment vehicle ay may turbo dahil sa + HP benefit nito mas less fuel consumption dahil madali niya na meet yung required HP ng engine = less tapak sa accelerator = less fuel

kaya need ng controller kasi yan ang magiging parang blow-up valve parts ng turbo

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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2009, 04:53:37 PM »
kung ang carburetor mo ay well tuned up it good pero iba parin ang may turbo kasi mas bibilis ang engine response + HP sa engine mo iba pa rin talaga pag naka turbo marami na akong try to improve sa engine pero still iba pa rin ang naka turbo kaya nga ang mga heavy equipment vehicle ay may turbo dahil sa + HP benefit nito mas less fuel consumption dahil madali niya na meet yung required HP ng engine = less tapak sa accelerator = less fuel

kaya need ng controller kasi yan ang magiging parang blow-up valve parts ng turbo

check nyo po yung link sa LM2917 pinost ko sa page 2 ;)
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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2009, 05:19:45 PM »
paano ko po convert yun ehh magnetic pickup po ang gamit at san parts ko kaya ng engine connect ko yung pin 1 in case na tangalin ko yung magnetic pick up kasi ang pinaka pag kukunan lng ng pulse dun eh sa (-) pole ng distributor coil ganun ba? ang magiging circuit nun at yung output ng circuit deretcho na ba yun sa DC motor ? wla na bang transistor or solid state relay man lng dadaanan para di masira yung IC?

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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2009, 06:05:28 PM »
paano ko po convert yun ehh magnetic pickup po ang gamit at san parts ko kaya ng engine connect ko yung pin 1 in case na tangalin ko yung magnetic pick up kasi ang pinaka pag kukunan lng ng pulse dun eh sa (-) pole ng distributor coil ganun ba? ang magiging circuit nun at yung output ng circuit deretcho na ba yun sa DC motor ? wla na bang transistor or solid state relay man lng dadaanan para di masira yung IC?

magneic pickup kaparehas lang yan ng sa pulser ng motor ;) then iboost yung output ng IC para makapagdrive ng motor :)
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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2009, 06:12:53 PM »
mas malakas kumain ng fuel yan.. pag turbocharged.. kesa sa hinde.. mas efficient lang yung turbocharged smaller engine kesa sa big engine producing the same power..

kung gusto mo ay makatipid sa fuel choose a car with a small engine yung mga 1.2 liters yung sakin nissan sentra 1.6.. o kaya papalitan mo ng engine.. kasi yung mga bago ngayun ang lalaki hehe sa maynila ka di ka pa nagbyahe ng province ubos na pera mo lakas nun kahit naka idle lang sa gasolina hehehe... tanung mo sa mga drivers... kung pano makatipid.. usually sila nakaka experience nyan kung matipid nga..

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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2009, 06:12:53 PM »

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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2009, 06:22:14 PM »
Voltage Driven Meter Indicating Engine RPM (LM2917 datasheet page 10)

konti na lang idadagdag/babaguhin ;)



Minimum Component Tachometer

makikita natin dito na pwede sya idrive directly ng magnetic pickup, kung gagamitin sa motor ganito ang connection ng galing sa pulser


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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2009, 06:52:08 PM »
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mas malakas kumain ng fuel yan.. pag turbocharged.. kesa sa hinde.. mas efficient lang yung turbocharged smaller engine kesa sa big engine producing the same power..

paanong malakas kumain ehh sinabi mo na nga mas efficient yung naka turbo charge compare sa big engine  ::)
 acctually ang sasakyan ko ay Kia CD-5 na B3 engine ang consumption ng gas ko ay nasa 13 to 16 km/ liter pero gusto kong tumaas pa ng HP dahil masyadong mahina ang acceleration pag nasa 60-100 kmh ang takbo
ang observation ko pag nag rev up ako kulang ang air mixture ko dahil sa maliit ang intake manifold and butas ng carburetor or stock carburetor. dating 10- 14 km/liter lng ang fuel efficiency ko dati. nung na modify ko yung parts ng carb lumakas ang HP at tumaas ang km/liter which is 13 to 16 km/ liter. Ok na ako d2 sa 13 to 16 pero gusto ko ma maximized or more improved yung engine ko to quick response engine. from from calamba to pasig vise versa ang fuel ko ay 400 petot nung 45 petot per liter ng gasoline  ;D

at pag big engine mas mabigat siyempre compare mo sa small engine na naka turbo lng ang dinag dag

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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #47 on: October 23, 2009, 07:26:01 PM »
sir dba ganito lang, yung malaking makina na hindi naka turbo sabihin natin kayang bumatak ng 1 ton na bakal na ang kokonsumohin na fuel ay isang litro sa loob ng isang oras na pagbatak sa 1 ton na bakal

then mayroon tayong maliit na makina na hindi rin nakaturbo ang kaya nyang batakin na bakal ay 500 kilo sa dalawang oras gamit ang isang litrong gasolina, ngayon kakabitan natin sya ng turbo kaya na nya ngayon bumatak ng 1 ton na bakal kaya lang yung isang litro na fuel nya ay tatagal na lang ng kalahating oras :)
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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2009, 03:45:37 AM »
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sir dba ganito lang, yung malaking makina na hindi naka turbo sabihin natin kayang bumatak ng 1 ton na bakal na ang kokonsumohin na fuel ay isang litro sa loob ng isang oras na pagbatak sa 1 ton na bakal

then mayroon tayong maliit na makina na hindi rin nakaturbo ang kaya nyang batakin na bakal ay 500 kilo sa dalawang oras gamit ang isang litrong gasolina, ngayon kakabitan natin sya ng turbo kaya na nya ngayon bumatak ng1 ton na bakal kaya lang yung isang litro na fuel nya ay tatagal na lang ng kalahating oras

hindi po ganyan

according sa wikipedia ito ang turbo - turbocharger is to increase the density of air entering the engine to create more power


ang sabi po ay increasing density of air to create more power !

not to add fuel po

at ang principle po ng carburetor acording sa wikipedia ito po

A carburetor basically consists of an open pipe, a "throat" or "barrel" through which the air passes into the inlet manifold of the engine. The pipe is in the form of a venturi: it narrows in section and then widens again, causing the airflow to increase in speed in the narrowest part. Below the venturi is a butterfly valve called the throttle valve — a rotating disc that can be turned end-on to the airflow, so as to hardly restrict the flow at all, or can be rotated so that it (almost) completely blocks the flow of air. This valve controls the flow of air through the carburetor throat and thus the quantity of air/fuel mixture the system will deliver, thereby regulating engine power and speed.


ang sinasabi po or in short word yung air(oxygen) ang nag didikta ng power and speed ng engine thus a quantity of fuel

yang sinasabing air fuel mixture mostly sa conventional engine ay one part of fuel and 9 parts of oxygen(air)(1:9) pero bumababa ito 1:9 pag nag rev up due to luck of air nagiging 1:7 siguro
pero pag may turbo kayang tumaas ang fuel ratio ng 1:14 pag tumaas ang air tumataas din ang power ng engine

ang hirap mag explain  ;D siguro mas complete siguro ito sa info

Holset - How a Turbocharger Works

ang bottom line ay kaya tayo nag pressing ng accelerator dahil sa power need or speed needed

pero kung di ma meet yung tamang ratio nag kakameron ng partially un burned fuel(natatapon ka ng fuel) due to lost of air = less power

engine power is base sa fuel/ratio kung observe mo ang ratio 1 part of fuel and 9 part of oxygen
 compare to 1 part of fuel and 14 part of oxygen is more power





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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2009, 09:53:51 AM »
ganda pala ng topic dito..

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« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2009, 11:22:32 AM »
MORE fuel and and MORE air + VERY small compression chamber(gaya ng sa motor natin)  = big bang theory 
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« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2009, 11:31:59 AM »
ayun raft!!! sample code ng CDI mo naman!!! :D
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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2009, 02:11:12 PM »
one thing tungkol d2 sa post ni nucleus di po ganito
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compressed= more fuel inside the chamber = more power

pag more fuel = less power or puwedeng malunod na tinatawag in mechanic term then pag nalunod mahirapan na pandarin or di aandar

ang theory po nito ay sa fire triangle ignition, fuel. oxygen sa tatlong yan mawala ang isa wlang fire.

one good example: mag lagay ka ng alcohol sa glass container then sindihan mo tapos habang may apoy inti unti mong takpan ang baso ma recognized mo na habang lumiliit ang butas ng baso humihina ang apoy hangang sa matakpan mo mamamatay ang apoy kahit may alcohol pa sa loob 

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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #53 on: October 24, 2009, 03:43:48 PM »
maiba ng kunti tau sir cmdr73. nakita mo na ba ung device na nagproproduce ng arcing (sparks to ground)

eh nakakagenerate ng nitrogen na syang nilagay sa loob ng air filter

at nakkadagdag ng speed at less fuel consumtion...
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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2009, 04:24:07 PM »
 kung di ako nag kaka mali ito yung taga BF resort las pinas na parang may high voltage na may arcing sa intake ng carb nilalagay?

kung ito nga yun sinasabi mo ang masasabi ko bogus ito arcing na ito kasi kung mag kakameron man dapat ng ignition or igniter dapat sa loob ng combustion chamber kasi dun dapat mag kameron ng combustion or apoy. kung may arcing ka at di well tuned ang carb ( i mean nag o-over flow ang fuel mo) mo tapos dun dumadaan ang high pressure of air = kaboom sa labas ng combution chamber or engine  ;D ;D

according sa again sa triangular form to produced fire ng fuel,oxygen,and ignition kung complete ito in same place = fire

ang magiging itsura nito kung naka kita ka na ng engine na nag ba-back fire ganun ang itsura nito = useless ang combustion sa labas ng engine

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« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2009, 04:33:38 PM »
;D ;D

eh nagbabackfire yung motor ko eh :( :( :'(
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« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2009, 04:44:10 PM »
;D ;D

eh nagbabackfurt yung motor ko eh :( :( :'(

 ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2009, 05:55:01 PM »
woot29 pa timing mo yung contact point or tinatawag na platino. kasi kung CDI type yan di mag back fire yan

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« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2009, 07:06:37 PM »
CDI type to sir Yamaha Crypton Z

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Re: Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)
« Reply #59 on: October 24, 2009, 11:22:14 PM »
maiba ng kunti tau sir cmdr73. nakita mo na ba ung device na nagproproduce ng arcing (sparks to ground)

eh nakakagenerate ng nitrogen na syang nilagay sa loob ng air filter

at nakkadagdag ng speed at less fuel consumtion...

naikwento nga sakin ito ng tatay ko sa intake manifold yung nilalagyan ng charge yung fuel para mas madaling macombust
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