Project : electronic Turbo (hybrid Turbo)

[nucleus]

one thing tungkol d2 sa post ni nucleus di po ganito
pag more fuel = less power or puwedeng malunod na tinatawag in mechanic term then pag nalunod mahirapan na pandarin or di aandar

ang theory po nito ay sa fire triangle ignition, fuel. oxygen sa tatlong yan mawala ang isa wlang fire.

one good example: mag lagay ka ng alcohol sa glass container then sindihan mo tapos habang may apoy inti unti mong takpan ang baso ma recognized mo na habang lumiliit ang butas ng baso humihina ang apoy hangang sa matakpan mo mamamatay ang apoy kahit may alcohol pa sa loob 

more fuel sir eh nakaturbo so more air din hehehe parang yung BOGA lang ito

[cmdr73]

naikwento nga sakin ito ng tatay ko sa intake manifold yung nilalagyan ng charge yung fuel para mas madaling macombust

kng gusto mo madaling ma com bust kelagan mo ng high octane or Nitrous oxide called nitro to evaporate the fuel quickly. hindi yung electric arcing which contribute as igniter. kasi ang arcing saka spark plug ay parehas ng function

[nucleus]

kng gusto mo madaling ma com bust kelagan mo ng high octane or Nitrous oxide called nitro to evaporate the fuel quickly. hindi yung electric arcing which contribute as igniter. kasi ang arcing saka spark plug ay parehas ng function

nope hindi nga arcing, yung sa naikwento sakin ng tatay ko yamaha ata yun gumamit nung technic na iyon, FYI po dating karerista ng tarlac ang tatay ko during his teenage days, 30+ years experience ng mekaniko

[labgruppen]

di ako sigurado kung significant pero it's plausible na may "boost" na maibibigay ng extra oxygen sa "ozone" na nagegenerate sa pamamagitan ng high voltage corona discharge na nilalagay sa intake manifold. not actually arcing, pero malapit na sa arcing.

[Ganda692002]

You mean you are trying to make ozone.. and feed it to the combustion chamber..

I think it will make combustion more efficient since it has 3 oxygen(O3) instead of 2 (O2).. but saying that its energy efficient ay medyo diskumpyado ako cause I think it takes a lot more energy to make ozone artificially than you would make if you burn it.. pero siguro kung makakakuha ka ng ozone freely sa environment then it would make for a better combustion.. One problem is that Ozone being 3 oxigen is verrrry corrosive to metals not only that it is very reactive(like pure Oxygen remember the warning on pure oxygen tanks) might also combust metals on contact( imagine mo na masusunog pati casing ng engine).. at isa pa its very toxic.. so practicality of using it is alanganin..

unless you want to cheat on racing na kahit masira engine at baterya basta manalo lang ehhh bahala ka na.. di ko lang alam how much ozone is produced in a corona at kung malaki nga ba ang naitutulong nito kasi kung kunti lang na ozone parang wala ding epek.....

[nucleus]

You mean you are trying to make ozone.. and feed it to the combustion chamber..

I think it will make combustion more efficient since it has 3 oxygen(O3) instead of 2 (O2).. but saying that its energy efficient ay medyo diskumpyado ako cause I think it takes a lot more energy to make ozone artificially than you would make if you burn it.. pero siguro kung makakakuha ka ng ozone freely sa environment then it would make for a better combustion.. One problem is that Ozone being 3 oxigen is verrrry corrosive to metals not only that it is very reactive(like pure Oxygen remember the warning on pure oxygen tanks) might also combust metals on contact( imagine mo na masusunog pati casing ng engine).. at isa pa its very toxic.. so practicality of using it is alanganin..

unless you want to cheat on racing na kahit masira engine at baterya basta manalo lang ehhh bahala ka na.. di ko lang alam how much ozone is produced in a corona at kung malaki nga ba ang naitutulong nito kasi kung kunti lang na ozone parang wala ding epek.....

hindi po ito cheat, ginamit na daw ito ng yamaha, isa ata ito sa sikreto ng yamaha kung bakit ang lalakas ng motor nila

[Woots29]

hmm kaya pala ang lakas ng motor ko

kelangan ko lang kunting dagdag ng speed

[cmdr73]

I think it will make combustion more efficient since it has 3 oxygen(O3) instead of 2 (O2).. but saying that its energy efficient ay medyo diskumpyado ako cause I think it takes a lot more energy to make ozone artificially than you would make if you burn it.. pero siguro kung makakakuha ka ng ozone freely sa environment then it would make for a better combustion.. One problem is that Ozone being 3 oxigen is verrrry corrosive to metals not only that it is very reactive(like pureOxygen remember the warning on pure oxygen tanks) might also combust metals on contact( imagine mo na masusunog pati casing ng engine).. at isa pa its very toxic.. so practicality of using it is alanganin..

unless you want to cheat on racing na kahit masira engine at baterya basta manalo lang ehhh bahala ka na.. di ko lang alam how much ozone is produced in a corona at kung malaki nga ba ang naitutulong nito kasi kung kunti lang na ozone parang wala ding epek.....

malapit na po ang analysis ninyo sir ganda.

meron po ako document tungkol d2

gasoline contains many different chemical compounds, it is made up mostly of hydrocarbons, and all hydrocarbons form the same products when they are burned (just in different amounts). When a hydrocarbon is burned (that is, reacted with oxygen), it forms carbon dioxide (CO2) and water (H2O). For our "average" gasoline of C8H18, the reaction is 2 molecules of octane reacting with 25 molecules of oxygen (O2) to form 18 molecules of water and 16 molecules of carbon dioxide. Of course, this reaction only occurs completely in an ideal world. In the real world, there is usually not quite enough oxygen available fast enough inside your car's engine to allow the reaction to occur completely, so there is also some carbon monoxide (CO) formed as well. In addition, since the oxygen is provided by bringing air into the engine, and since air consists mostly of nitrogen, some oxides of nitrogen (NOX) are formed as well. Finally, some of the trace elements in the gasoline (such as sulfur) can react to form small amounts of other pollutants, such as SO2.

So, to sum up, gasoline is a complicated mixture of hydrocarbons boiling between 120 and 400 degrees F, with chemical formulas between C6H14 and C12H26, but a good "average" compound is C8H18. These react in an ideal situation to produce carbon dioxide and water, but in an actual automobile engine they also produce some amount of undesirable compounds including carbon monoxide, oxides of nitrogen, and sulfur-containing compounds. I hope this helps to answer your question.

correction po sa madla ang exhuast po ng engine ay hindi carbon dioxide(CO2) ang sa realidad po carbon Monoxide(CO) due to luck of oxygen and ang carbon monoxide pong cycle ito di gaya ng CO2 na ang kumakain nito ay plants and trees. gaya ng sinabi sa document ang gasoline is composed lng po ng hydrocarbons bale sa chemical reaction

C6H26 + O = HC + CO

carbonmonoxide = Colorless, odorless, tasteless, yet highly toxic. Automobile and industrial emissions may also contribute to the greenhouse effect and global warming; it's one of the other greenhouse gases we don't usually hear much about. It occurs naturally in our atmosphere at around 0.1 ppm, but car exhaust without a catalytic converter contains 7,000 parts per million.



from wikipedia.org ito ang sabi
Carbon monoxide is produced from the partial oxidation of carbon-containing compounds; it forms when there is not enough oxygen to produce carbon dioxide (CO2), such as when operating a stove or an internal combustion engine in an enclosed space. Carbon monoxide burns, with a characteristic blue flame, producing carbon dioxide.[citation needed] Despite its serious toxicity, coal gas, which was widely used before the 1960s for domestic lighting, cooking and heating, produced carbon monoxide as a byproduct. Some processes in modern technology, such as iron smelting, still produce carbon monoxide as a byproduct.

kaya ang na gamit ng N2O(Nitrous Oxide) and turbo's ay mas ecofriendly kasi yung exhaust ng engine nila ay carbon dioxide not like conventional car na carbon monoxide

carbon monoxide ay wlang gas cycle

carbon dioxide ay plant and trees food to produced oxygen

meron akong plan for experiment dahil ang carbon monoxide ay cause ng unburned fuel yung unburned fuel na ito ibabalik mo sa engine para ma fully burned

[nucleus]

meron akong plan for experiment dahil ang carbon monoxide ay cause ng unburned fuel yung unburned fuel na ito ibabalik mo sa engine para ma fully burned

magiging less efficient ang engine mo nito, mas mabuti pa cguro kung siguradohin na lang na sapat ang oxides (i think meron ng ganitong mechanism ang mga modern designed cars )

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try nyo nga Agua Oxinada na additives....H2O2 pwede kaya?

sa pagkakaalam ko kayang sirain ng Oxygen lang na turbo ang makina, 25% lang kasi ito sa hangin natin, pag dinagdagan pa ng mga 50% na Oxygen malakas siya pero nag-ooverheat

[cmdr73]

magiging less efficient ang engine mo nito, mas mabuti pa cguro kung siguradohin na lang na sapat ang oxides (i think meron ng ganitong mechanism ang mga modern designed cars

sa totoo lng yung binabalik yung un burn fuel meron na nito sa sa karamihan engine except motor cycle itong passage na ito ay yung tinatawag na PCV valve kung kamilar ka sa engine? at kung alam mo ang parts ng engine and function pero this PCV ay small amount lng ito ng un burned fuel  na ibinabalik. yung experiment na balak ko na try mo na ba? at yung nasa isip ko alam mo kung paano ang gagawin ko? ride on ka nalang bro tayo din ang makikinabang d2 pag sucess ang experiment ko  

ang tanong ko lng sa mga manufucturer ng mga engines bakit hindi nila built-in ang turbo sa engine as engine parts kesa sa gawa cla ng gawa ng mas malaking engine na walng turbo

pangalawa kung titignan mo ang turbo simple parts lng ito compare mo sa engine na mas malaki pero bakit mas mahal pa ito or parehas na ang price ng engine?

pang tatlong tanong nagawa na ang catalytic converter but still mahal ang price nito

kung talagang eco friendly ang mga gumagawa nito dapat mura ito para sa mundo

or ginagamit lng nila ang word na eco friendly ko the money  

ang tunay na eco friendly ay yung may knowledge sharing without money talk

[labgruppen]

correction po sa madla ang exhuast po ng engine ay hindi carbon dioxide(CO2) ang sa realidad po carbon Monoxide(CO) due to luck of oxygen and ang carbon monoxide pong cycle ito di gaya ng CO2 na ang kumakain nito ay plants and trees.

but car exhaust without a catalytic converter contains 7,000 parts per million.



meron akong plan for experiment dahil ang carbon monoxide ay cause ng unburned fuel yung unburned fuel na ito ibabalik mo sa engine para ma fully burned

i think a car's exhaust would be mostly nitrogen, CO2, H2O (in form of water vapor) and traces of other gases such as CO etc. sabi nga sa wiki na 7000ppm ang CO content ng car exhaust. That's 0.7 per cent carbon monoxide. and as stated, ang cause ng CO emmission is mostly due to lack of oxygen for full combustion. this is the reason why some people die of CO poisoning when running their car engine in a closed garage for a period of time.  CO2 first builds up (and a bit of CO), then as CO2 builds up, the engine is deprived of oxygen for optimum combustion thus increasing the rate of CO production and this cycle goes on raising the CO levels to toxic levels.
so importante na optimized (by proper tune-up) yung air/fuel mixture na pumapasok sa engine to minimize CO emmissions. and never run engines in places without proper ventilation.

[cmdr73]

try nyo nga Agua Oxinada na additives....H2O2 pwede kaya?

puwede siguro kung Gas form di gaya ng N2O(nitrous oxide) na gas form
pangalawa kung hahalo ito sa gasoline + h2O2 mag hahalo kaya?

according sa wikipedia ginagamit din yung H2O2 sa rocketry same as N2O
ang pinag kaiba lng wla sinabi na puwedeng gamitin sa car racing ang H2O2  


ang mga sulution lng kasi puwede ay:
Add hydrogen content
add oxygen content
and reburn the unburn fuel

Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is a very pale blue liquid, slightly more viscous than water, that appears colorless in dilute solution. It is a weak acid, has strong oxidizing properties, and is a powerful bleaching agent. It is used as a disinfectant, antiseptic, oxidizer, and in rocketry as a propellant.[2] The oxidizing capacity of hydrogen peroxide is so strong that it is considered a highly reactive oxygen species.

[nucleus]

sa totoo lng yung binabalik yung un burn fuel meron na nito sa sa karamihan engine except motor cycle itong passage na ito ay yung tinatawag na PCV valve kung kamilar ka sa engine? at kung alam mo ang parts ng engine and function pero this PCV ay small amount lng ito ng un burned fuel  na ibinabalik. yung experiment na balak ko na try mo na ba? at yung nasa isip ko alam mo kung paano ang gagawin ko? ride on ka nalang bro tayo din ang makikinabang d2 pag sucess ang experiment ko  

ang tanong ko lng sa mga manufucturer ng mga engines bakit hindi nila built-in ang turbo sa engine as engine parts kesa sa gawa cla ng gawa ng mas malaking engine na walng turbo

pangalawa kung titignan mo ang turbo simple parts lng ito compare mo sa engine na mas malaki pero bakit mas mahal pa ito or parehas na ang price ng engine?

pang tatlong tanong nagawa na ang catalytic converter but still mahal ang price nito

kung talagang eco friendly ang mga gumagawa nito dapat mura ito para sa mundo

or ginagamit lng nila ang word na eco friendly ko the money  

ang tunay na eco friendly ay yung may knowledge sharing without money talk

ako talaga sa sarili ko hindi ako expert sa mga makina mapagmasid lang sa mga ginagawa dito samen

isa pa yung mga european na kotse ang madalas merong Turbo

mahal ang turbo, special alloy ang gamit na materyales nito, halos lahat ng mga heavyequipment na ginagawa dito samin may turbo na



yung mga bagong kotse kung mapapansin nyo may tubig na lumalabas sa muffler

[nucleus]

puwede siguro kung Gas form di gaya ng N2O(nitrous oxide) na gas form
pangalawa kung hahalo ito sa gasoline + h2O2 mag hahalo kaya?

according sa wikipedia ginagamit din yung H2O2 sa rocketry same as N2O
ang pinag kaiba lng wla sinabi na puwedeng gamitin sa car racing ang H2O2 


ang mga sulution lng kasi puwede ay:
Add hydrogen content
add oxygen content
and reburn the unburn fuel

Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is a very pale blue liquid, slightly more viscous than water, that appears colorless in dilute solution. It is a weak acid, has strong oxidizing properties, and is a powerful bleaching agent. It is used as a disinfectant, antiseptic, oxidizer, and in rocketry as a propellant.[2] The oxidizing capacity of hydrogen peroxide is so strong that it is considered a highly reactive oxygen species.

pang one month lang cguro ang gamit ng engine pag ginamitan nito sulfuric acid + hydrogen peroxide = pcb etchant! dba may presence ng sulfur sa gasoline at mas marami pa sa diesel

[cmdr73]

so importante na optimized (by proper tune-up) yung air/fuel mixture na pumapasok sa engine to minimize CO emmissions.

tama po ito. pero ang sabi to minimize CO emission

kung ganito ang system : tune-up + turbo or adding oxides or hydrogens to burn or atomized the air = much better environment and fuel ,money saving

[labgruppen]

puwede sigurong gumamit ng catalyst to aid the decomposition of hydrogen peroxide to release the extra O2 (2(H2O2) --> 2(H20)+O2)) then channel the released O2 to the intake manifold. bale pabulain yung agua oxenada tapos yung hangin mula sa bula ihahalo sa intake.

[cmdr73]

puwede kaya carbon dioxide(CO2)?

CO2 = C + O2 diba

ehh ginagamit as fire extinguisher ito ehh 

[labgruppen]

hehe, maglagay ka ng halaman to get the C from CO2 and release the O2..