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need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« on: February 04, 2010, 10:26:46 PM »
uhm gagawa po kc kami ng network parang ganito computer-router- yagi uda antenna then sa kabilang building yagi uda-router computer..ask ko lng po pano po magiging design ng yagi antenna pra ang magtransmit ng data?salamat po sa mgrereply!!!anu po ung mga kelangan kong bilhin?

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need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2010, 10:31:07 PM »
depende sa frequency na gagamitin. most probably, WiFi ang router na gagamitin niyo kasi 'yun lang ang wireless na pwedeng kabitan ng antenna. ginagamit naman ang Yagi sa 2.4Ghz band, pero maraming mas efficient na design tulad ng BiQuad na may 11dBi gain, 1/4 lang ng libro ang size.
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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2010, 10:33:48 PM »
kaya pa kaya ni yagi ang 2.4GHz?
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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2010, 10:37:42 PM »
yup kaya naman sis, medyo malaki nga lang compared sa ibang antenna designs. medyo 'di na rin proportional tingnan kasi malapit na sa size ng boom 'yung elements. ;D
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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2010, 10:50:27 PM »
salamat po sir/maam sa reply!!!anu naman po ung signal booster?kelangan dw po kc un?mga magkano po kya un?and sir ingin nyo po makano magagastos nmn maliban sa computer..cables,routers,antenna,and ung signal booster?

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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2010, 10:55:44 PM »
yup kaya naman sis, medyo malaki nga lang compared sa ibang antenna designs. medyo 'di na rin proportional tingnan kasi malapit na sa size ng boom 'yung elements. ;D

may gain pa kaya yun sir?

baka kasi malaki na ang lose..
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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2010, 10:59:47 PM »
gaano bang kalayo 'yung lugar? kung within 5km at with clear line of sight, antenna lang katapat niyan. pero kung medyo malayo naman, antenna sa parabolic dish. kung mas malayo pa, router designed for external use, medyo mas mataas power nun, meron nun sa CD-R King.

'yung mga taong sumasagap ng WiFi signal sa paligid, antenna lang ang gamit nila. minsan, cardboard lang. ;D
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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2010, 11:01:42 PM »
may gain pa kaya yun sir?

baka kasi malaki na ang lose..

meron pa rin naman, pero kailangan downsized na para 'di malaki ang losses. 'yung mga nakikita ko 1/4" ang boom, tapos solid rods 'yung mga director at reflector (meron rin sa opisina na dual band, pero pang 1800 at 2100 MHz naman). 'yung iba naman PCB ang gamit.
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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2010, 11:04:07 PM »
gaano bang kalayo 'yung lugar? kung within 5km at with clear line of sight, antenna lang katapat niyan. pero kung medyo malayo naman, antenna sa parabolic dish. kung mas malayo pa, router designed for external use, medyo mas mataas power nun, meron nun sa CD-R King.

'yung mga taong sumasagap ng WiFi signal sa paligid, antenna lang ang gamit nila. minsan, cardboard lang. ;D

sir malapit lng po to mga 500 meters lng po!!!ang prob ko po di ko po alam ung maginging desgn ng antenna,anu na pong frequency ang gagamitin ko?

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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2010, 11:10:00 PM »
meron pa rin naman, pero kailangan downsized na para 'di malaki ang losses. 'yung mga nakikita ko 1/4" ang boom, tapos solid rods 'yung mga director at reflector (meron rin sa opisina na dual band, pero pang 1800 at 2100 MHz naman). 'yung iba naman PCB ang gamit.

^ sir masyado na kasing mataas yung working freq. nya,

kaya ibig sabihin maiksi na ang bandwidth nito..

TNX sir..
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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2010, 11:39:36 PM »
sir malapit lng po to mga 500 meters lng po!!!ang prob ko po di ko po alam ung maginging desgn ng antenna,anu na pong frequency ang gagamitin ko?

WiFi is on 2.4 Ghz, search for BiQuad, madami kang makikita sa net. kung 2 building naman at kita ang bintana ng magkabilang building, pwede na 'yung Windsurfer (cardboard template para gumawa ng small parabolic reflector na kinakabit sa standard antenna).

^ sir masyado na kasing mataas yung working freq. nya,

kaya ibig sabihin maiksi na ang bandwidth nito..

TNX sir..

karamihan naman ng application sir pasok 'yung bandwidth sa isang folded dipole. tapos nasa antenna na rin 'yung matching elements (lumped LC 'yung nakikita ko, 'di na transformer) for 50 ohms connection.

'yun nga lang mas marami talagang mas efficient na design pag-abot sa UHF at microwave. 'yung nakita kong BTS antenna ng GSM, array lang ng turnstile, 22dBi ang gain.
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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2010, 11:44:57 PM »
gumawa ako dati ng yagi uda sa 2.4 Ghz para gawing directional yung signal na galing sa router.. Never tried sa mas malayong lugar pero napatunayan ko na may directionality yung signal pagka kabit sa antenna ko. Kasi sa dating mahina ang signal na spot sa dulo ng corridor, naging maayos ang reception.. :D

alluminum yung boom, AWG gauge 8 copper wire yata yung mga reflectors, director at yung driven element (folded dipole) ko.. nakalimutan ko na yung ginamit kong coax cable.. RG-59 yata or RG-58, basta mura lng pag yung antenna, creativity lang ang ginamit.. pero pag bibili ka pa ng booster, mangolekta ka nalang sa mga kagrupo mo pandagdag.. :D
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2010, 11:46:25 PM »
^ TNX sir RD..
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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2010, 11:53:53 PM »
gumawa ako dati ng yagi uda sa 2.4 Ghz para gawing directional yung signal na galing sa router.. Never tried sa mas malayong lugar pero napatunayan ko na may directionality yung signal pagka kabit sa antenna ko. Kasi sa dating mahina ang signal na spot sa dulo ng corridor, naging maayos ang reception.. :D

alluminum yung boom, AWG gauge 8 copper wire yata yung mga reflectors, director at yung driven element (folded dipole) ko.. nakalimutan ko na yung ginamit kong coax cable.. RG-59 yata or RG-58, basta mura lng pag yung antenna, creativity lang ang ginamit.. pero pag bibili ka pa ng booster, mangolekta ka nalang sa mga kagrupo mo pandagdag.. :D

sir tnx po!!!magkano po ba ung booster?magpost po uli me d2 for other inquiries sir hope na makareply kayo uh!!!start po nmn gawin 2 nex week eh!!!bale mgcanvass muna po kami!!!

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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2010, 11:57:26 PM »
gumawa ako dati ng yagi uda sa 2.4 Ghz para gawing directional yung signal na galing sa router.. Never tried sa mas malayong lugar pero napatunayan ko na may directionality yung signal pagka kabit sa antenna ko. Kasi sa dating mahina ang signal na spot sa dulo ng corridor, naging maayos ang reception.. :D

alluminum yung boom, AWG gauge 8 copper wire yata yung mga reflectors, director at yung driven element (folded dipole) ko.. nakalimutan ko na yung ginamit kong coax cable.. RG-59 yata or RG-58, basta mura lng pag yung antenna, creativity lang ang ginamit.. pero pag bibili ka pa ng booster, mangolekta ka nalang sa mga kagrupo mo pandagdag.. :D

pwede ring kahoy lang 'yung boom. ;D


quick google search:

Yagi:

http://www.iw5edi.com/ham-radio/?building-a-2.4-ghz-10-el.-yagi,115

BiQuad:

http://martybugs.net/wireless/biquad/

construction-wise - nakabuo ako ng biquad within 15 minutes with available materials sa bin. ;)

^ TNX sir RD..

no prob sis. ;D
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Re: need help sir bout yagi antenna!!!
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2010, 12:30:48 AM »
sir tnx po!!!magkano po ba ung booster?magpost po uli me d2 for other inquiries sir hope na makareply kayo uh!!!start po nmn gawin 2 nex week eh!!!bale mgcanvass muna po kami!!!

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