Web Page Development

[maryean]

hello po, gud day. magtatanong lang po.

i dont have any idea about web page development but i have basic knowledge in programming.i want to learn on how to make web page design, any software or references that u could suggest. thank u to all.

[rdpzycho]

http://www.w3schools.com/

[>>>vhinz08<<<]

hello po, gud day. magtatanong lang po.

i dont have any idea about web page development but i have basic knowledge in programming.i want to learn on how to make web page design, any software or references that u could suggest. thank u to all.

try u mamboo or joomla template...
frontpage(html based) parang nag ms word ka lng...
dreamwaver aus rin.......

[0b00000111]

makisingit na din ng tanong, ano ang mas ok, Php o ASP.NET?

[rdpzycho]

sa mga murang server, mas maraming PHP. karamihan ng nakikita kong gumagamit ng ASP.NET, companies lang. pagdating sa personal, PHP.

[zeitcheist]

@maryean
Anong web page po ba? Static or dynamic?
Pag static, puro html code lang, kaunting javascript, pero wala ajax functionality.. Bale ung content ng page e hard-coded sa source code..
Pag dynamic, dun ka gagamit ng server side scripting: PHP, ASP, ASP.NET, etc.. Oftentimes naka-connect sa DBMS..

@Anghel_7
Kung gusto nyo po ng maraming support library na libre, PHP, robust pa..
Kung gusto nyo po madali pero not that robust, ASP.. lol ^^

[maryean]

thank u po mga sir..

[0b00000111]

Kung gusto nyo po ng maraming support library na libre, PHP, robust pa..
Kung gusto nyo po madali pero not that robust, ASP.. lol ^^

thanks! is it the same case pa rin ba with the ASP.NET?

btw, I also read that .NET developers are paid higher than Php Developers? (maybe this is because mas scarce ang ASP.NET devs?)

[zeitcheist]

thanks! is it the same case pa rin ba with the ASP.NET?

btw, I also read that .NET developers are paid higher than Php Developers? (maybe this is because mas scarce ang ASP.NET devs?)

ASP closely related po sa ASP.NET, nakapatong lang ung ASP.NET sa dotNet framework..

Pwedeng isa sa mga rason un, cguro nga.. Pero mas mabilis pa rin sa parsing ang PHP kesa ASP.NET..

[cirkitbored!]

Hello!

We might want to consider learning HTML as a starter. Once we have a grasp of its basic then we can delve into more advanced features
like Dynamic HTML using CSS, Javascript etc. or the more graphics-rich features of flash or Silverlight. Most important of course is for us
to understand what is going on under-the-hood, that is how, web pages really works. By understanding the basic, it would be easier for us
to enriched our knowledge with more advance features. Of course, we can dive right away creating instant web pages using Macromedia, Frontpage, or MS
Visual Web developer or Java IDE but once we arrived at serving dyanamic UI, then we'll suddenly hit a wall especially when a encounter an error.
So first learn HTML.. the basic
then CSS...
then at least scripting language like Javascript (universal language in Web development)

Depending on how serious you are , I mean, the demands you face on web development, then you can move on with the more DYNAMIC WEB PAGES
that requires authentication, parsing user inputs and Database support... kumbaga, say a simple guestbook... or an e-commerce site. Then
dito na papasok yong mga server sides technologies like FLash, Coldfusion, JAVA, PHP, PERL and ASP.NET etc... MY-SQL, MS SQL, ORACLE, Sybase etc...

So.. yon po...

Some links:

http://www.davesite.com/webstation/html/

www.primalscript.com/   -  PrimalScript

www.visicommedia.com/ - AceHTMLPro







Note: sorry but based on my experience, I dont think that PHP is more robust than ASP or ASP.NET for that matter, the strength of a site does not depends
on technology used (partly of course) but the implementation of it's security. Although, programming language plays a big part. If that would be the case,
then perhaps a big part of the webs E-commerce site is wasting their money using ASP.NET. This is not an opinion but a suggestion that perhaps we should be more
responsible on our posts. Since we want this forum to be more informative, then let us not post based on our personal preferences but what is best for
the readers. Not so serious... but factual...    Thank you.. sorry ulet ...

[ricnew2]

makisingit na din ng tanong, ano ang mas ok, Php o ASP.NET?

for personal choice its ASP.net. pero anong mas ok? its hard to say because we all have preference on what programming we are using.
pero i have to choose asp.net for lot of support on other technologies dll, java, webservices, .net framework etc. hope it shares some ideas.. =)

[0b00000111]

thanks cirkit and ricnew and zeitcheist, ganda points for all of you

[zeitcheist]

Note: sorry but based on my experience, I dont think that PHP is more robust than ASP or ASP.NET for that matter, the strength of a site does not depends
on technology used (partly of course) but the implementation of it's security. Although, programming language plays a big part. If that would be the case,
then perhaps a big part of the webs E-commerce site is wasting their money using ASP.NET. This is not an opinion but a suggestion that perhaps we should be more
responsible on our posts. Since we want this forum to be more informative, then let us not post based on our personal preferences but what is best for
the readers. Not so serious... but factual...   Thank you.. sorry ulet ...

You should not feel sorry, its your experience, buti nga sinabi mo ung experience mo.. Pero:
robustness - The degree to which a system or component can function correctly in the presence of invalid inputs or stressful environmental conditions
secure - Free from attack or danger; protected; Free from the danger of theft; safe; Free from the risk of eavesdropping, interception or discovery; secret;
Magkaiba po sila, ang binanggit ko lang eh robustness.. Kahit secured pa ung code mu, or system for that matter, if stresses come in, dun na masusukat ung robustness.. Tama po ba or mali? Sa napapansin ko kasi, parati interchanged yang terms na yan, although hindi naman dapat.. Magkaiba ng meaning, though one affects the other..

Kung sa programming language to use naman, marami support sa ASP.net, pwde yata gumamit ng C#, J#, etc..
Unlike PHP, C-like talaga..
Mas madali gamitin? Pareho lang.. ^^

[ElektroniC8]

makisingit na din ng tanong, ano ang mas ok, Php o ASP.NET?

agree asp.net is the newest webpage development, ginagawa narin itong standard ngayon

[devdad]

PHP or ASP.Net, the choice is just a matter of preference. No matter how many people claim theirs is the best solution, what matters is which one works best for YOUR application and how much you're willing to invest in both money and resources.

Kung gusto mo mag bayad so you can blame someone pag palpak ang system, go to the commercial vendor. If you're willing to shoulder the responsibility go with open source.

If your opinion is based on personal experience, you shouldn't be sorry. I believe we are free to express opinions here, but we're also allowed to disagree.

As for me, based also on experience with 9 e-commerce websites handling hundred-million yen transactions per month (or thousands of yen per minute), we put our faith in PHP. We haven't had a minute of downtime for 4 years. Makes economic sense for us.

Re: robustness of PHP
Ask Yahoo, Wikipedia, Flickr, Facebook, Friendster, Sourceforge, etc. why they're using PHP (http://wheel.troxo.com/2008/01/08/most-popular-websites-running-on-php/)

"Technology - Facebook is the second most-trafficked PHP site in the world, and one of the largest MySQL installations anywhere, running thousands of databases." (http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?factsheet)

As for .Net developers getting paid higher than others, that's probably true. But that's because kaunti lang sila compared to developers of other languages. Supply and demand.

[cirkitbored!]

@Anghel_7

Thanks!

@maryean

hayan.. daming ideas

i have my share of PERL,PHP and .NET experience, but it's hard to conclude the robustness of each. They all have their Pros and Cons and syempre, for those who would like to enter the realm of Web development, this is one important aspect to consider.

For more exciting comparisons.. dami sa Web, here I listed a few:

http://weblogs.asp.net/bleroy/articles/193608.aspx

http://misfitgeek.com/blog/aspnet/php-versus-asp-net-ndash-windows-versus-linux-ndash-who-rsquo-s-the-fastest/
http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2009/08/13/php-verses-aspnet.aspx]
[url]http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2009/08/13/php-verses-aspnet.aspx[/url]

http://www.netconcepts.com/php-versus-asp/
http://www.codeguru.com/cpp/cpp/cpp_managed/asp/article.php/c12723]
[url]http://www.codeguru.com/cpp/cpp/cpp_managed/asp/article.php/c12723[/url]


Dami pang Aspects like Server, Web Server, programming languages, Database Support and which DB Server , Security..  multimedia... And it boils down to depende 

I suggest po that you learn the basic of most of this technologies. And depending on your target, whether you want to market yourself
sa mga companies or you want to setup/manage your own site, then you can choose kung saan mo talaga dapat i enhance yong capabilities mo. Malibansa mga nabanggit ko na, you might want to consider learning ActionScript... para naman ito sa  Flash Support.
And dont forget.. support for mobile devices.

Some sites for free tutorials and resources on ActionScript:

www.freeprogrammingresources.com/actionscript.html

www.smartwebby.com/Flash/
www.flashtutorials.us/actionscript/1/]
[url=http://www.flashtutorials.us/actionscript/1/]www.flashtutorials.us/actionscript/1/[/url]

www.actionscript.org/
 Web Server:

www.iis.net/
www.apache.org/


DB:
www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/]
[url=http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/]www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/[/url]
www.mysql.com/

www.oracle.com/

www.sybase.com


Shalom

[maryean]

@cirkitbored

thank u so much sir. pogi points for u sir.

[ElektroniC8]

wel dev I think it depend narin sa programmer. at nde depend sa application. may mga programmer na kahit iisang programmer language lang ang gamitin nila ay nagagawa nila ang lahat ng function na gusto nila. yung iba naman ay gumagamit ng shuffle prog language para hendi sila mahirapan. like sabi nila kapag powerful raw C++ ang gamitin tulad ng paggawa ng games pero pwedi naman yan lahat gawin ng vb o c#. may mga programmer kasi na deni-depend lang nila ang knowledge nila sa libro, o kaya yung natutunan nila sa school. pero puro theory lang ang nasa school ang sa real world dapat gumawa ka ng sarili mong discarte sa pag-develop ng project mo kung saan ma-eenhance ang knowledge mo at hinde nakadepend sa author lang. for my openion khait anong programming language ang gamitin basta magawa ng maayos ang project ay ok na yon and it must be have a flexibility ang program, (easy to upgrade, and retrieve) and also it depend sa nag-aaply ng knowledge niya. comp-prog ba siya comp- info. com-scie at iba pa. lahat yan may iba- ibang style ng pagdevelop pero pareho lang ang style ng application.

 
 

[cirkitbored!]

@cirkitbored

thank u so much sir. pogi points for u sir.

Thanks sis!

Tuloy mo lang... dont hesitate kung may tanong ka pa. Make it more specific though para tackle natin 1 by 1...
Goddluck!

[cirkitbored!]

Oooppsss... Goodluck!