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it's sad that more and more can't design a circuit and prototype!

"pahingi nang schematic"
"walang alam sa logic ic's"
"rf ciruit?" tamang wrong spelling pa....

and many more.

How can we help them out?  ;D
sana may makainspire sa mga noobies, hobbyist and project makers natin dito sa elab.
i believe they only need a little big brother.

just post any ideas how you complete your electronic project.  ;D

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Re: Basics of Electronics Design... MASTERS and APRENTICE PASOK PO!
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 12:11:01 AM »
sometimes iniisip ko kung nakakatulong nga ba ang forum na ito or is this forum making lazy people to become even more Lazy.. gusto instant schematic at source code..
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Re: Basics of Electronics Design... MASTERS and APRENTICE PASOK PO!
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Re: Basics of Electronics Design... MASTERS and APRENTICE PASOK PO!
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 03:08:46 AM »
ang dami na kasing students ngayon gusto lang quick solution. ayaw ng malaman kung paano ba nangyari 'yung hinihingi nila.

"patulong po, pasahan na next week."
"'di po kami marunong mag-program."

etc.

mas maganda siguro kung tulungan lang 'yung gustong tulungan 'yung sarili nila. 'yung naghahanap ng quick solution, hints lang.

sa students, bawasan rin ang ka-adik-an sa Facebook at DOTA. :D mas magagawa niyo 'yan kapag naka-graduate na. :D :D :D
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Re: Basics of Electronics Design... MASTERS and APRENTICE PASOK PO!
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 03:08:46 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 04:23:49 AM »
^

and also, querying about ideas and solutions without explanation of the problem or giving out sort details about it..

nasa tao talaga if they really insist on how they do it, may mga tao talaga na gusto ang quick solution, i guess ang magagawa lang naten is to motivate those persons to do the right thing..

they have to realized what are the best things to do than slacking off =)




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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 09:02:05 AM »
haizt!! kaming mga  student kasi inuuna muna  ang sarap bago ang hirap! ahaha. ayun kaya gusto lagi  na aasa na lang sa mga master! hehe. magbabago na po!  bawas  dota na din!:) :)
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2010, 09:17:46 AM »
 :-[ :-[ :-[

hindi ko na rin alam pano makakatulong, it seems kumokonte na sa bagong generation ang may interest sa electronics.

pangarap ng mga ECE ngayon eh mapunta sa comms
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2010, 09:48:32 AM »
uu nga po!! mas hi-tech po yata sa comm. ngayon kesa sa electronics! hehe.. pero mas madami naman po yatang makukuha sa  electronics! di ba pwede naman na ipagcombine ung 2?
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2010, 10:33:27 AM »
:-[ :-[ :-[

hindi ko na rin alam pano makakatulong, it seems kumokonte na sa bagong generation ang may interest sa electronics.

pangarap ng mga ECE ngayon eh mapunta sa comms

Tama ka master glutnix, marami rin akong alam na ECE na nagpunta sa comms - call center desk ;D

Yung napapansin ko, yung new generations are more interested in system integration, they do not want to go into the details of the circuit. I cannot tell if this is a good thing, but it is not that bad either.
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Re: Basics of Electronics Design... MASTERS and APRENTICE PASOK PO!
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2010, 10:38:17 AM »
sometimes iniisip ko kung nakakatulong nga ba ang forum na ito or is this forum making lazy people to become even more Lazy.. gusto instant schematic at source code..

Parehas pala tayo ng iniisip dito, ang daming tamad na posters na ayaw man lang mag search sa google muna baga magtapon ng tanung.

Ok lang sana yun, pero the problem is ni basic sa idea ng tanung nila eh di nila alam.

Meron pang mahilig maki-argue ng point nila kahit di pa man lamang nagbasa nor nagresearch.

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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2010, 10:46:31 AM »
uu nga po!! mas hi-tech po yata sa comm. ngayon kesa sa electronics! hehe.. pero mas madami naman po yatang makukuha sa  electronics! di ba pwede naman na ipagcombine ung 2?

Most communications related jobs are either CSR or TSR jobs. Kahit yung sa mga NOC, more on TSR yun.

Electronics related job is becoming extinct here in us, why, kasi ambaba magpasahod ng mga multinationals sa semiconductor plants or kahit sa mga research and development. Another, naglilipatan na sila sa China at India. Mas ok dun, wala labor union, ok lang na mababa sahod at wala masyado holidays, well di ko lang alam sa India.

Parang mas mataas ang sahod sa applications side compared sa development side ng field natin. Yung taon na ginawa ng research engineers, araw lang pag-aaralan ng applications engineer ang pag gamit, tapos ngayun mas mataas pa ang sahod nya kaysa sa mga gumawa nito or sa support ng gumawa nito. Buset!


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Re: Basics of Electronics Design... MASTERS and APRENTICE PASOK PO!
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2010, 11:53:27 AM »
Pero may mga students naman na nag-exert ng effort their projects.
If you had noticed, sila ang mas tinutulongan ko at yung iba minsan I will not even respond.
Spoon feeding will not make them learn but makes them LAZY as others had pointed out.

We might be be branded as arrogant kung ayaw nating magbigay ng tulong.
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2010, 01:27:58 PM »
ako din, rather magbigay ako schematic eh, circuit block ang binibigay ko, sila pinapahanap ko schematic then magcocomment na lang ako sa mga pwede nila imodify dun.
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2010, 04:29:36 PM »
Tama ka master glutnix, marami rin akong alam na ECE na nagpunta sa comms - call center desk ;D

Yung napapansin ko, yung new generations are more interested in system integration, they do not want to go into the details of the circuit. I cannot tell if this is a good thing, but it is not that bad either.

same observation. iilang graduates lang ang gusto sa circuit design, at madalas kapag nalaman ng mga kaklase mo or kabatch mo na nasa circuit design ka, super geek ang tingin sayo, parang hindi na siya norm ngayon. 3 ang karaniwang napupuntahan ng mga graduates ngayon, System Integration, IT/Software Engineering, at Call Center.

it may not be bad, pero sa tingin ko hindi rin siya totally good. madalas kasi 'yung natitira sa design, lumalabas pa ng Pilipinas, (we can't blame them dahil medyo mababa nga ang sahod dito).

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Re: Basics of Electronics Design... MASTERS and APRENTICE PASOK PO!
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2010, 04:44:09 PM »
minsan kasi pag ang tao nasa "out of comfort zone" natataranta na, so mas hinihingi nila yung madaling solusyon, w/c is yung paghingi ng mga schematic at source code ;D ;D ;D siguro dapat din silang iguide na, tipong "let's build it up step by step." pag di nag-agree, bahala na sila sa buhay nila... maghanap sila ng gagawa ;D 

indirectly, isa rin sa may kasalanan nito is yung school, di man lamang nagtuturo kung paano ang stages ng development from conceptualization/analysis of requirements/design/implementation/testing and deployment, madalas self-discovery na lang ng mga estudyante ito... at sa mga companies na lang madalas matututunan ito.








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Re: Basics of Electronics Design... MASTERS and APRENTICE PASOK PO!
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2010, 04:49:42 PM »
minsan kasi pag ang tao nasa "out of comfort zone" natataranta na, so mas hinihingi nila yung madaling solusyon, w/c is yung paghingi ng mga schematic at source code ;D ;D ;D siguro dapat din silang iguide na, tipong "let's build it up step by step." pag di nag-agree, bahala na sila sa buhay nila... maghanap sila ng gagawa ;D 

indirectly, isa rin sa may kasalanan nito is yung school, di man lamang nagtuturo kung paano ang stages ng development from conceptualization/analysis of requirements/design/implementation/testing and deployment, madalas self-discovery na lang ng mga estudyante ito... at sa mga companies na lang madalas matututunan ito.








pero paano kaya kung mala- misa campo ang humingi ng tulong sa inyo? ;D

yup, kugn kung magdemand pa sa projects/thesis eh akala mo itinuro, minsan di pa inaassist ang student sa mga projects na sya naman ang may pakana..

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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2010, 04:55:16 PM »
pero paano kaya kung mala- misa campo ang humingi ng tulong sa inyo? ;D

naalala ko tuloy 'yung classmate ko, 'di makatanggi basta chicks ang nagpapaturo. :D
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2010, 04:58:23 PM »
^^ pati din ba ikaw sis rdp? ;D
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2010, 05:00:31 PM »
^^ pati din ba ikaw sis rdp? ;D

OT: hindi ako magaling magturo. :D :D :D
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2010, 05:03:27 PM »
OT: hindi ako magaling magturo. :D :D :D at gwapo lang tinuturuan ko ;D

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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2010, 05:07:27 PM »
pambihira, edited kaagad. :D

back to topic na. ;D
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