Magkano Rate ng Senior Design Engineer sa Taiwan?

[NanotecH]

sis glutnix, kunin mo ako pag andoon ka na kahit taga masahe mo lang pwede na ako

nakow, meron ng 'bubaeng masahista' dun 

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[danny]

impkata ka din sis nano waahhhhhhh
baka kailangan ng firmware sa electric massager nila

[paoloramos]

hello po, buhayin ko lang thread na to, heheh...

i just passed the board exam po and I'm still deciding kung ano industry at field kukunin ko. parang gusto ko yung firmware design engineering na tinatanong ni ateng glutnix_neo.. 

ano po yung mga kelangan na skills for firmware design? parang feeling ko kasi kulang pa yung natutunan ko sa college. i am willing to study and learn more skills naman, either thru training or aral ulit. single naman ako kaya hindi masyado importante sakin ang sahod.

ano po advice nyo that will lead me to firmware design field? may mga companies kaya dito sa pinas na pwede mapagkunan ng experience?

[rdpzycho]

daming tutorials and projects about microcontroller dito sa forum. practice with them.

though, what will separate a great firmware engineer from the rest is style and approach. 'yan ang medyo mahirap makuha sa umpisa, experience talaga ang kailangan diyan kaya simula na ngayong mag-practice.

[motion55]

ano po advice nyo that will lead me to firmware design field?

As the name firmware implies, it's between hardware and software. So, di lang good ka sa software but also strong ka din sa background ng hardware.

And hardware does not only mean electronic circuits and MCU circuit design stuff. It also means dapat familiar ka sa science ng mga processes na kinocontrol ng firmware. Specific knowledge is not too important. May Google naman. However, your knowledge of the fundamentals and quickly understanding what you researched on the internet are very important. "Di tunuro sa amin yan" is not an excuse if you want to be in this field.

After graduation, paano ka mapasok sa ganitong field? Sad to say, there are very few companies in the Philippines that need these services. Pero there are still some. Kaunti lang sila but they're losing their best engineers to job opportunities abroad. The pay is low but isipin mo na lang parang tuition fee for your post graduation knowledge.

Your best chance is to find companies that support industry like the semicon industry. There is very little firmware design within the semicon industry pero sa supporting industries mayroon. Another area is the packaging industry.

[paoloramos]

thank you po sa response mga sir! means a lot to newbies like me

@rdpzycho: you mean, it's best to learn on my own? wala po bang training or short courses for this? mas maganda kasi kung may certificate or training from a company para mas kapani-paniwala ilagay sa resume  we had microcontroller projects in college kaso basic lang tapos group project pa so ina-assign lang yung tasks like programming, hardware, etc. I had no experience doing a microcontroller project on my own.

@motion55: I made a quick job search po sa jobstreet for firmware development engineer. sad to say, most of them are looking for applicants with working experience. C/C++ din usually yung preferred programming language, which I had no experience using. pero madali lang siguro pag-aralan kasi java naman first language ko. i don't really mind if the pay is low kasi for experience lang naman

[Kaizer03]

then do some related projects para may application ka... sa amin d rin naituro yung mga ganyan, blinking LED using assembly pa, pahirapan pa sila makapagturo, goodthing andito ang elab,..

use the information na meron sa internet wisely, and do your own part para matuto.. self-discipline + passion for your,darating ka dun sa gusto mo

goodluck=)

[motion55]

Kung gusto mo maging "firmware development engineer" at wala ka pang experience, mahirap talaga. Lalo na pag di ka galing sa tier 1 schools (yung mga branded na universities).

Anung ginagawa ng mga gustong maging artista sa Hollywood? Marami sa kanila nagtratrabaho as waiter/waitress sa Hollywood. Nagsisimula as extra muna hanggang mabigayan ng break.

Sa ganitong field, may katumbas sa pagiging "extra". Applyan mo mga position na related sa firmware development. Kung ang skill mo ay Java, baka pwede sa software development/testing ng applications sa smartphone. As I said marami sa supporting industries ng semicon, naghahanap ng related jobs sa equipment development. In other words, wag lang mag apply ng "firmware development engineer". Maraming position na iba ang title pero related sa binabalak mong field.

[PlCUSER]

self-discipline + passion

self discipline = skip meals para may pambili ng IC
passion = skip date sa lalake para may pambili ng programmer
diskarte = mangupit kay nanay para may pambili ng ibang pyesa.

[your most RIDICULOUS man :)]

self discipline = skip meals para may pambili ng IC
passion = skip date sa lalake para may pambili ng programmer
diskarte = mangupit kay nanay para may pambili ng ibang pyesa.

tomoo

[rdpzycho]

@rdpzycho: you mean, it's best to learn on my own? wala po bang training or short courses for this? mas maganda kasi kung may certificate or training from a company para mas kapani-paniwala ilagay sa resume   we had microcontroller projects in college kaso basic lang tapos group project pa so ina-assign lang yung tasks like programming, hardware, etc. I had no experience doing a microcontroller project on my own.

there are, pero ganun lang din ang matutunan mo kung sa bahay ka nag-aral.

tandaan mo lang na kapag may sinulat kang certificate sa resume mo, mas mataas ang expectation ng interviewer. it could be your downfall or it could be your savior. it's up to you, but I guess most of the people never had any other certificate when they entered their first job.

[your most RIDICULOUS man :)]

there are, pero ganun lang din ang matutunan mo kung sa bahay ka nag-aral.

tandaan mo lang na kapag may sinulat kang certificate sa resume mo, mas mataas ang expectation ng interviewer. it could be your downfall or it could be your savior. it's up to you, but I guess most of the people never had any other certificate when they entered their first job.

idol..

[rdpzycho]

ganun din sa software, may mga certifications, pero 'yung advance (and some intermediate) certifications talaga, 'di kakayanin ng individual gastusan. IIRC, 'yung next na certification/seminar ni misis, 1M PhP ang cost para sa 10 or 15 na tao ata.

[your most RIDICULOUS man :)]

ganun din sa software, may mga certifications, pero 'yung advance (and some intermediate) certifications talaga, 'di kakayanin ng individual gastusan. IIRC, 'yung next na certification/seminar ni misis, 1M PhP ang cost para sa 10 or 15 na tao ata.

GRABEE. Yung sa CISCO ba yan sis?

[rdpzycho]

nope. SAP. 'yung M$ certifications ni misis 'di ko pa natatanong kung magkano ang isa.

[paoloramos]

salamat ulit sa mga super helpful na input!

pero may dagdag katanungan ulit na medyo OT na, heheh..

pinag-iisipan ko din yung work sa hardware R&D kasi parang interesting din. I know hindi talaga sapat yung natutunan sa college, so ano po yung skills na kelangan for this industry na dapat matutunan? may nabasa ako job listing sa mga international companies like HTC, IBM, preferred nila yung may masters. pero anong masters naman?

hay, dami talaga pagpipilian sa ECE. basta one thing's for sure: ayoko sa comm kasi daming theories!   

[rdpzycho]

for hardware design, analysis skills ang pinakamahalaga.

BTW, if you don't like tons of theories, R&D may not be for you. what if Planar/3D Antenna design ang kailangan ni HTC for R&D. you'll need to know a lot of theory for that.

[paoloramos]

I see. I can take theories naman. Pero mas madali for me i-grasp yung theories ng elex compared to comm (especially if it has anything to do with electromagnetism). I'd like to believe na I have a knack for troubleshooting and analyzing

Example lang naman yung HTC. Meron naman siguro R&D in other companies na wala masyado comm?

[rdpzycho]

depende kung anong klaseng design, kung maraming analog, 'di maiiwasan ang Electromagnetics, even in High-Speed digital design kino-consider 'yan.

OT: isa 'to sa mga basic na dapat ma-distinguish in design:

ano ang difference nitong dalawang design? parehas lang values ng R at nung V:

[paoloramos]

well, just because i don't like it doesn't mean i'll completely avoid it. I understand that engineering sciences overlap kaya kung kelangan pag-aralan, i'll do it. mas mabilis lang talaga comprehension ko pag walang electromagnetics. I was doing ok with my electromag subjects naman, hindi ko lang talaga favorite.

may difference ba? huhu, basic pa yan ha...