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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #800 on: January 27, 2012, 02:41:58 PM »
Sir tony tama ka umusok nga ang resistor na ikinabit ko.

Saang resistor ba ang umusok?
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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #801 on: January 27, 2012, 03:24:58 PM »
Cge po mga sir
 salamat try ko ung mga procedure ninyo salamat ng marami po..Work muna ako..

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #802 on: January 27, 2012, 03:49:59 PM »
yung fuse sa positive rail ay pinalitan ko ng resistor 10ohm 1w itong resistor na ito ang umusok.

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #803 on: January 27, 2012, 04:01:38 PM »
yung fuse sa positive rail ay pinalitan ko ng resistor 10ohm 1w itong resistor na ito ang umusok.

Pero yung DC offset ba nito ay ok na?
Naikabit mo yung 1 pair ng output tranny pero di nman nasira yung tranny? check mo.
Yung ipinalit mong trimmer ay dapat nasa midspan lang muna, baka nman naisagad mo.
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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #804 on: January 27, 2012, 04:18:07 PM »
yung fuse sa positive rail ay pinalitan ko ng resistor 10ohm 1w itong resistor na ito ang umusok.

so ibig sabihin me problema pa yung board mo, check mo yung biasing ckt or reverse connected small trannies...

pag hindi na nausk yung 10ohm resitor, pwede ka na magtesting...

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #805 on: January 27, 2012, 04:51:30 PM »
sir Johannah lahat ng trimmer ay nasa midspan. yung tranny ay na test ko ulit di naman nasira. at di pa ko nag check ng dc offset kasi may trouble pa yung circuit ko.
Sir tony di ko makita ang sira ng board ko. Ok sir check ko ulit ang biasing ckt ko. sir anong ibig sabihin ng revrse connected small trannies? di ko po kasi ma get sencya na po.

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #806 on: January 27, 2012, 05:05:22 PM »
^yung ebc, minsan napagpapalit yan...

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #807 on: January 27, 2012, 08:16:12 PM »
Sir tony di umusok yung resistor na 10ohm resistor na ipinalit ko sa fuse at sinukat ko din ang idle current i shunt the probe on that resistor at iniset ko sa 25mA ang lumabas sa BE ng output ay lumabas na 0.5V. Yung DC offset ay na set ko na rin sa OV output voltage. Now one channel is calibrated well. Ang Trannies ko is 7 pair per channel. ang drive na ginamit ay C5198 at A1941. Now i'm using +/-46VDC supply. Sir tony ilang supply voltage ang ideal para amp ko? Ang plano ko kasi ay +/-90VDC ok po ba gamitin itong supply na ito. Gumawa na ako ng bobbin ng trafo ko ang size ae 1.5 center leg at 6.5 thickness. Sir ano kayang wira size ang dapat kong gamitin? kasi sa computation ko ay parang malaki yung size ng wire  na gagamitin ko Primary ay #10 Secondary ay #8 baka di magkasya sa bobbin. Ang taas ng core ay tama lang sa case na gagamitin ko. Sir tony thanks ng marami sa magandang advice mo sa akin. Sir Johannah salamat din. Bukas na yung other channel.

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #808 on: January 27, 2012, 08:48:45 PM »
hindi kakasya yang mga magnet wire na na post mo sir.
anu ang mga transistor na gagamitin dyan sa amp?

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #809 on: January 27, 2012, 08:50:42 PM »
Sir tony di umusok yung resistor na 10ohm resistor na ipinalit ko sa fuse at sinukat ko din ang idle current i shunt the probe on that resistor at iniset ko sa 25mA ang lumabas sa BE ng output ay lumabas na 0.5V. Yung DC offset ay na set ko na rin sa OV output voltage. Now one channel is calibrated well. Ang Trannies ko is 7 pair per channel. ang drive na ginamit ay C5198 at A1941. Now i'm using +/-46VDC supply. Sir tony ilang supply voltage ang ideal para amp ko? Ang plano ko kasi ay +/-90VDC ok po ba gamitin itong supply na ito. Gumawa na ako ng bobbin ng trafo ko ang size ae 1.5 center leg at 6.5 thickness. Sir ano kayang wira size ang dapat kong gamitin? kasi sa computation ko ay parang malaki yung size ng wire  na gagamitin ko Primary ay #10 Secondary ay #8 baka di magkasya sa bobbin. Ang taas ng core ay tama lang sa case na gagamitin ko. Sir tony thanks ng marami sa magandang advice mo sa akin. Sir Johannah salamat din. Bukas na yung other channel.

ang dami mong tanong....... :D :D :D

datasheet ng C5198 here say Vceo of 160volts.......http://www.toshiba.com/taec/components2/Datasheet_Sync/66/7886.pdf
Toshiba datasheet says: http://www.toshiba.com/taec/components2/Datasheet_Sync/66/7886.pdf has it at 140volts
so my advice is to use +-70volts to be on the safe side......

no point in using higher rails, you will not hear the difference even if you use +-80 volts or even +-90 volts, you will just be heating up your power trannies needlessly........

first time builders believe that having higher rails makes for a more powerful amp, thus the obsession for higher rails..... truth is that it does not need to be so...make your amp work and enjoy it and learn from it....

but if you want to do it like that make sure your heatsinks are very big....

you can post your traffo question on my thread for traffos.....

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #810 on: January 27, 2012, 09:00:38 PM »
[first time builders believe that having higher rails makes for a more powerful amp, thus the obsession for higher rails..... truth is that it does not need to be so...make your amp work and enjoy it and learn from it....
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tama po kayo sir tony, ganyan din ako dati ;D,... ngayon dina, sound quality na hinahanap ko kahit mababa voltage ok lang..... ganito yata talaga kung nag kakaidad na,  nyahahaha!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #811 on: January 27, 2012, 09:01:08 PM »
gawing class h nlang ;D ;D ;D

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #812 on: January 27, 2012, 09:03:10 PM »
[first time builders believe that having higher rails makes for a more powerful amp, thus the obsession for higher rails..... truth is that it does not need to be so...make your amp work and enjoy it and learn from it....
]

tama po kayo sir tony, ganyan din ako dati ;D,... ngayon dina, sound quality na hinahanap ko kahit mababa voltage ok lang..... ganito yata talaga kung nag kakaidad na,  nyahahaha!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

kaya me plus 1 ka....

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #813 on: January 27, 2012, 09:07:06 PM »
^thanks sir tony.

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #814 on: January 27, 2012, 10:01:22 PM »
+/-90VDC, makukuha mo ito.
sunog na speaker, mas malaking gastos.
+/-70vdc, medyo ok. 250watts/8ohms.
Ska bakit C5198 lang, di kaya ng 7 pairs nito ang +/-90vdc lalo na kung mag 4 ohms speaker sytem ka. Sagad na to for 500watts at 8 ohms. Sa +/-90vdc, C5200/A1943 ang mas angkop.
Mababa nman yung 46vdc.
Suggestion ko sa trafo, 55-0-55Vac.
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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #815 on: January 28, 2012, 02:16:25 PM »
Sorry di ko pala na specify yung output na ginamit ko ang ibig kong sabihin ay 7 pairs of A1943 at C5200 ang output. Ang drive ko ay A1941 AT C5198. Yung update ni jbmobile ang ginaya ko. Yung 46VDC ay for testing lang kasi di pa tapos ang trafo ko. Now both channels are working fine ang sounds good. Paano po bang mag post ng picture para makita niyo ang gawa ko. kaya pala umuusok yung resistor na 10ohm resistor na ipinalit ko sa fuse ng positive rail ay mababa ang value ng trimmer sa bias circuit ang nilagay ko ay 2K ang dapat pala ay 50K ito ang value sa diagram. Bakit kasi sa update ni jbmobile ay 1K lang ang ginamit niya kaya ang inisip ang 2K ay pwede rin. Plus 1 din sa yo sir tony at sayo din sir Johannah.

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #816 on: January 28, 2012, 02:42:08 PM »
Kaya nga sabi ko mataas lang yung idle current mo eh.
Punta ka sa tinypic.com para sa pics, doon pwede kang mag-upload, piliin mo lang yung 640x480 saka copy/paste mo lang yung link na pang forum.
Insert image ang gawin mo sa posting at paste mo yung link sa gitna ng 2 brackets, delete mo yung extra brackets na mailagay, yung link lang mismo dapat ang madagdag.
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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #817 on: January 28, 2012, 02:59:03 PM »
sir paano yung insert image sa posting? di ko makita e nakapag upload na ako ng picture sa tinypic.

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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #818 on: January 28, 2012, 03:43:31 PM »
I-preview mo at ng makita mo yung mga pwede i-insert. Makita mo dyan yung parang frame, pag nakatapat yung mouse mo dyan lalabas na insert image yan.
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Re: WESTRAK AMP NA 500 WATTS @ 8 OHMS LOAD
« Reply #819 on: January 28, 2012, 04:03:29 PM »
sir ito ang westrak amp ko
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