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Diesel Electric a.ka. Hybrid
« on: April 06, 2008, 12:34:39 AM »
yung trains ng PNR in reality diesel electric ang gamit niya. Diesel generator na nakakabit sa electric motors na siya namang nagpapagtakbo sa wheels ng train. ang akala ko nito nung maliit pa ako, yun mismong diesel engine ang nagpapatakbo ng wheels ng train.

World war 2 submarines ganito din ang setup. pang-recharge ng lead acid battery ang diesel engine pero ang nagpapatakbo ng propellers ay yung electric motor kasi hindi ka naman pwede magpaandar ng diesel engine habang submerged yung submarine because of carbon monoxide poisoning.
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Diesel Electric a.ka. Hybrid
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Re: Diesel Electric a.ka. Hybrid
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2008, 12:44:24 AM »
Quote from: Electron on April 06, 2008, 12:34:39 AM
.. hindi ka naman pwede magpaandar ng diesel engine habang submerged yung submarine because of carbon monoxide poisoning.
hindi ba pwedeng maglagay ng tambutso sa submarine ?  ??? ;D
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Re: Diesel Electric a.ka. Hybrid
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2008, 12:16:24 PM »
diba may bago na po ngaun ung mga hybrid cars?
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Re: Diesel Electric a.ka. Hybrid
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2008, 12:27:45 PM »
sadly, mahal sila...at hindi widely available dito...

Toyota Prius is one of the most popular...

Honda Insight also became popular...

typical gas mileage nila 60mpg to 80mpg...

kung short term car mo siya, ok savings sa gas...pero kung long term like 10 to 20 years...mahal magpalit ng battery...

pero, malaki ang reduction nila sa emissions...
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Re: Diesel Electric a.ka. Hybrid
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2008, 11:41:00 PM »

Ano bang gamit na battery ng mga ito??? Kasi baka mas toxic at malala pa ang waste???
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Re: Diesel Electric a.ka. Hybrid
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2008, 11:46:03 PM »
Ni-MH...soon to migrate on Li-Ion...

na-raise na rin ang issue na yan...kaya sana lahat ng solutions meron ding long term study...
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Re: Diesel Electric a.ka. Hybrid
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2008, 11:55:31 PM »
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Ni-MH...soon to migrate on Li-Ion...
yung Ni-MH saka Li-Ion parehong ginagamit sa mga cellphone batteries ?  ???
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2008, 11:57:56 PM »
Quote from: julznc on April 06, 2008, 11:55:31 PM
yung Ni-MH saka Li-Ion parehong ginagamit sa mga cellphone batteries ?  ???

Li-Ion na lang madalas sa cellphone...Ni-MH madalas naman sa wireless handsets sa bahay...
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Re: Diesel Electric a.ka. Hybrid
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2008, 12:11:21 AM »

mas worse at deadly sa palagay ko ang manyayari.....zero emmission to toxic waste. Atmos then Geo.

Patay na talaga ang future pag nangyari. :'(
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2008, 12:26:48 AM »
I would still prefer oil base fuels, I use "Exhaust Gas Oxidizer" ng sariling inventor natin Adolfo Allegre at international patented na niya, my yeary emmission is very minimal 0.3 lang at 20% saving sa gas.

I really dont get it, bakit hindi ito nag klic....
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Re: Diesel Electric a.ka. Hybrid
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2008, 10:42:26 AM »
I prefer Electric Car kasi zero emission (of course, no pollution).  Sa ngayon, ipa-plug mo lang sa wall outlet mo para i-charge ung battery but in the future makakagawa na rin ng self-charge (thru solar cell, etc).  Wala na ring oil change at oil leak.

Anyone interested?

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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2008, 01:16:44 PM »

I'm looking at the present, i think there are millions of cars....and come to think about this, if all this cars will be using electric with a rechargable batteries lets say Li-On, and it takes lots of Li-On rechargable batteries (usually occupies all floorings of the car) to run a single or double seater car. And Li-On only last for maybe 3 yrs. So we will be dumping TONS of Lithium i think everyday if all the world use it.

It's the waste actually, that discourages me when i design a motocross scooter. I have made one and test it for friend commercial use, its really fun, jumping and flying and acrobats..... but my maong pants is always destroyed by the acid coming from the Lead Acid battery. Thats when realize that battery is not good its toxic.
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2008, 01:34:21 PM »
u should use gel-acid battery instead of lead-acid...

with lead-acid batteries,yes, it'll occupy a lot of space on the flooring but not with the Li-Ion or Li-Polymer batteries.  the only problem with the Lithium based batteries is the price.

true, if lots of people are using Lithium based batteries for their car, we'll be dumping tons of it after 3 yrs or so, but technology changes from time to time.  so maybe in a few years they would come up with a biodegradable batteries that won't affect our nature or maybe car that don't need to be charge at all... :)
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Re: Diesel Electric a.ka. Hybrid
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2008, 01:38:09 PM »
Quote from: NANOTECH on April 13, 2008, 01:34:21 PM
u should use gel-acid battery instead of lead-acid...
gel ? anong naman composition ng gel na 'to ?  ??? walang Lead?
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2008, 01:51:24 PM »
i mean gel batteries...meron pa rin lead pero ung acid nya ay gelified electrolyte.... :)
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2008, 01:56:12 PM »
Quote from: NANOTECH on April 13, 2008, 01:51:24 PM
.. ung acid nya ay gelified electrolyte.... :)
ano naman advantage nya compared sa liquid na electolyte? ???
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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2008, 02:10:44 PM »
Quote from: NANOTECH on April 13, 2008, 01:34:21 PM
u should use gel-acid battery instead of lead-acid...

with lead-acid batteries,yes, it'll occupy a lot of space on the flooring but not with the Li-Ion or Li-Polymer batteries.  the only problem with the Lithium based batteries is the price.

true, if lots of people are using Lithium based batteries for their car, we'll be dumping tons of it after 3 yrs or so, but technology changes from time to time.  so maybe in a few years they would come up with a biodegradable batteries that won't affect our nature or maybe car that don't need to be charge at all... :)

There still that Lead thing...they spent million to get rid of that in the process (RoHs)
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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2008, 02:40:14 PM »
@julznc - non spillable & maintenance free

@arcadeo - true, but maybe in the near future they would come up with biodegradable batteries and eliminate Lead... who knows...hopefully :)
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2008, 02:46:30 PM »

Yeah im really waiting for that "nanotech"....gusto ko kasi ipagpatuloy yong motocross scooter ko bro galing ng rush he he he
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Re: Diesel Electric a.ka. Hybrid
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2008, 02:47:16 PM »
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non spillable & maintenance free
hmmm.. konbinsing.. hehe  ;D
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