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rules and regulations in pcb deisgning?
« on: July 04, 2010, 07:40:28 PM »
mga sir mam

meron po ba rules and regulations sa pagdedesign ng pcb?

like sa oscillator kailangan malapit siya sa mcu for effieciency ng clock

yun kapal or kitid ng lines

kapal kitid kapal ulit okay lang po?

no bearing po ba kung kinakapalan yun mga copper?

express pcb po kasi gamit ko,

as much as possible kinakapalan ko lahat.

okay lang po ba yun?
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Re: rules and regulations in pcb deisgning?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2010, 07:46:56 PM »
^ dalawa ang main rules na dapat mong alalahanin. long traces, and distant return lines will create inductance. parallel plates (on multi-sided boards) will create capacitance.

kapal - depende sa current kung power line. kung RF depende sa computation ng transmission line. kapag nagde-design ako, power traces lang ang karaniwang makapal, mas mahirap kasi control-in ang return lines kapag makapal.
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Re: rules and regulations in pcb deisgning?
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2010, 07:53:40 PM »
anu po ibig sabihn po neo dito po
long traces, and distant return lines will create inductance. parallel plates (on multi-sided boards) will create capacitance.
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Re: rules and regulations in pcb deisgning?
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2010, 08:27:28 PM »
if you'll be designing pcb for ac-powered consumer products, you'll may be interested in this safety standards:

IEC-60065:

Clause 13 - clearance and creepage distance
Clause 14 - components (14.1 - resistors, 14.2 - capacitors & rc circuits, 14.3 - inductors & windings)
your question appears to be an XY Problem.

why don't you just tell us exactly what you're trying to do?

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Re: rules and regulations in pcb deisgning?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2010, 09:02:26 PM »
anu po ibig sabihn po neo dito po
long traces, and distant return lines will create inductance.

Let us say one wire carries signal to the load while the other wire carries the current returned from the load to complete the circuit.



The current through the wires will induce a magnetic field. Since the currents are flowing in the opposite direction, the magnetic fields will tend to cancel each other if they are as close as possible. The lower the induced magnetic field, the lower would be the inductance.

Also the longer the wires the more magnetic field lines will be induced. And so keeping the wires short will lower inductance.

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parallel plates (on multi-sided boards) will create capacitance.
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Parallel plates on double sided boards act like capacitors.

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Re: rules and regulations in pcb deisgning?
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2010, 09:45:53 PM »
if you'll be designing pcb for ac-powered consumer products, you'll may be interested in this safety standards:

IEC-60065:

Clause 13 - clearance and creepage distance
Clause 14 - components (14.1 - resistors, 14.2 - capacitors & rc circuits, 14.3 - inductors & windings)

kung d.c. lang po

anu po yun clearance saka cleapage?
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2010, 10:36:07 PM »
kung d.c. lang po

anu po yun clearance saka cleapage?

to answer your question, it's better to read this so that you may learn the reasons for the values you asked:

Calculating Creepage and Clearance Early Avoids Design Problems Later
Audio Power Amplifier Design Handbook (from Google Books)

generally, kung low-voltage, low-current, there's no special safety requirement for pcb conductor distances except air clearance from conductors carrying ac-voltages.   this only pertains to safety.
your question appears to be an XY Problem.

why don't you just tell us exactly what you're trying to do?

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Re: rules and regulations in pcb deisgning?
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2010, 10:44:46 PM »
may file ako nung PCB designing eh.... hmmmm, hanapin ko muna baka makatulong.
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Re: rules and regulations in pcb deisgning?
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2010, 02:46:28 AM »
to answer your question, it's better to read this so that you may learn the reasons for the values you asked:

Calculating Creepage and Clearance Early Avoids Design Problems Later
Audio Power Amplifier Design Handbook (from Google Books)

generally, kung low-voltage, low-current, there's no special safety requirement for pcb conductor distances except air clearance from conductors carrying ac-voltages.   this only pertains to safety.

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2010, 09:53:25 AM »
thanks po sa mga nag reply!
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