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Brothers, Sisters, mga ka elabs...d ko alam kung saang thread ko i post ito eh...
Umpisahan ko na...ito yong ginawa kung CFL lighting...0.02 amp lang...hindi pa masyado maliwanag
but ang dami pang options to improve the circuits.


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Re: Energy Saving Device - Join Us and we shall build together
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2010, 12:44:06 AM »
nahirapan akong maghanap sa video, post na lang ung direct link po. Interesting yan, pero sana mag-evolve yan into a HV wireless just like you nakita ko dati sa video na nakapost rin somewhere d2, na 9v lang ang kailangan to power several CFL.
If somebody can find a way to utilize the microwave freq of cellsites eh liliwanag ang buhay natin. And I think its feasible.

 

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Re: Energy Saving Device - Join Us and we shall build together
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2010, 12:50:28 AM »
nahirapan akong maghanap sa video, post na lang ung direct link po. Interesting yan, pero sana mag-evolve yan into a HV wireless just like you nakita ko dati sa video na nakapost rin somewhere d2, na 9v lang ang kailangan to power several CFL.
If somebody can find a way to utilize the microwave freq of cellsites eh liliwanag ang buhay natin. And I think its feasible.
 
Sis Jam, Try Ulit...katatapos lang upload...hehehe

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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2010, 01:03:20 AM »
good, napanood ko na.. Pag hinahawakan ung cfl ay lumakas, that means makakatulong ang grounding and also try to emulate ung human capacitance, possibly a die-electric material or electromagnetic coil na nakabalot jan sa cfl?

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Re: Energy Saving Device - Join Us and we shall build together
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2010, 01:11:56 AM »
good, napanood ko na.. Pag hinahawakan ung cfl ay lumakas, that means makakatulong ang grounding and also try to emulate ung human capacitance, possibly a die-electric material or electromagnetic coil na nakabalot jan sa cfl?
Direct connection na yong cfl, tinanggal ko na yong board Jamz.

More options to improve Sis Jamz:
1. Dagdagan ko lang ang earth ground para lumakas yong ilaw nya.
2. Palitan ko yong ignition coil ng Bosch na talaga o yong isa don na sinasabi ko.
3. Pwede ring palakasin yong output ng HV, gamitan ko ng switching relay para tumaas ang
   output voltage.
4. Pwede rin ilipat yong earth ground don mismo sa HV terminal..
5. Dami options, pwede dagdagan ng bedini circuit, pwede dagdagan pa ng ignition coil...

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Re: Energy Saving Device - Join Us and we shall build together
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2010, 01:50:28 AM »
home made e-ballast? ok yan. congrats!

post ka ng schematic para ma-share sa iba.
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2010, 06:42:20 AM »
We can save a lot on electricity if all our lights are totally off the grid, kahit ilaw man lamang. But if we can't,  we can use this kind of method as long as the consumption is better than the conventional lighthing. LED is also an option, but initial investment is too high.
This HV thing is also ok, kasi kahit pundi na pwede pa rin.
 

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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2010, 10:18:11 AM »
We can save a lot on electricity if all our lights are totally off the grid, kahit ilaw man lamang. But if we can't,  we can use this kind of method as long as the consumption is better than the conventional lighthing. LED is also an option, but initial investment is too high.
This HV thing is also ok, kasi kahit pundi na pwede pa rin.
 

hwag naman...iconvert lang ang lahat ng incandescent lamps to compact flourescent.

at low pressure sodium lang ang para sa street lighting...mataas ang lumens per watts.

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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2010, 11:52:59 AM »
wow kagandang thread naman nito, gusto ko rin pong matutunan yan mga master,bossing, idol!!!!

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2010, 10:28:45 PM »
Try ko palit muna ng car ignition relay..

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2010, 11:05:20 PM »
Hello po. Medyo naguguluhan lang po ako. Paano po ba ito nakaka save nang energy? Ano po ba ang difference kung inverter ang gagamitin? Thanks po.
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2010, 09:53:09 PM »
mababa ang consumption at the same lumens.  think of a cfl na rated @ 22 watts and an incandescent bulb rated at 100w.  alin ang mas maliwanag? alin ang mas matipid?


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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2010, 11:12:55 PM »
Hello po. Medyo naguguluhan lang po ako. Paano po ba ito nakaka save nang energy? Ano po ba ang difference kung inverter ang gagamitin? Thanks po.
Tama si Sis jamz....Bro..tingnan mo...average ups can last up to 2 hrs. lang using 12vdc input power.

The regular straight DC power may last several hours o d kaya 3 days...

Itong Oscillation o Resonant energy cfl naman...0.02 amp lang sa 12dc if kung mapalakas pa ang lumination eh...baka umabot pa ng weeks o month bago ka mag re charge...

The savings?....hmmm syempre yong time element mo to recharge at gumamit ulit ng energy from the wall socket eh...long interval...off the grid pwede na solar yong pang charge or kabitan natin ng Bedini circuit motor...para yong part of the consumed energy eh ikabit natin o e charge sa isa pang battery para ikutan na lang.....may mga gamit na rin ako para sa bedini motor.
Try natin e compute/compare yong Battery AH equivalent

Amps = watts/voltage...
Average time to fully discharge a 12dc battery is = 20hrs.

(Theorytically)
If using UPS or inverter  - Amp= 23watts cfl /220volts = 0.10 amps
                                   Battery HR rate capacity     = (0.10 x 20) = 0.12AH

If using 12vdc                Amp = 23 /12 = 1.92 amps
                                   Battery Rate  = 38.40AH

Readings:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply
http://www.windpowerunlimited.com/batteries/Amp_Hours.htm


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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2010, 11:29:39 PM »
^ Modify po ba ninyo ang circuit nang cfl?
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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2010, 11:41:53 PM »
^ Modify po ba ninyo ang circuit nang cfl?
Wala na yong circuit board, tinanggal na..busted bulb to lhat na nakuha ko sa office
Radiant/ oscillation energy na nagpapailaw sa cfl.

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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2010, 12:05:33 AM »
Wala na yong circuit board, tinanggal na..busted bulb to lhat na nakuha ko sa office
Radiant/ oscillation energy na nagpapailaw sa cfl.

So wala na palang circuit board. For example 23 watts yan na cfl. Ilang watts na sya after na modify?
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2010, 12:07:07 AM »
tinangal PCB ng CFL? tapos sinalpak sa 220 volts?

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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2010, 12:36:33 AM »
Wala na yong circuit board, tinanggal na..busted bulb to lhat na nakuha ko sa office
Radiant/ oscillation energy na nagpapailaw sa cfl.

high voltage na inaapply doon sa dalawang dulo para magexcite yung gas sa loob, matagal na ito, yung mumurahing lantern na nabibili sa bumbay ay ganito ang gamit na ballast, compared sa ballast na ginagamit yung fillaments mas mabilis ang lifetime ng bumbilya dito, usefull lang sa pagmaximize nung busted na lamps

tested na ito sa bus company na dating pinagtratrabahuhan ng tatay at nanay ko, kaya yung mga bus ay hindi ganito ang ballast na ginagamit dahil nga magasta sa bumbilya

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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2010, 12:39:57 AM »
So wala na palang circuit board. For example 23 watts yan na cfl. Ilang watts na sya after na modify?

yung kanya 4.4watts na lang ang total nung dalawang lamp assuming na 220V parin
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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2010, 07:59:58 PM »
mababa ang consumption at the same lumens.  think of a cfl na rated @ 22 watts and an incandescent bulb rated at 100w.  alin ang mas maliwanag? alin ang mas matipid?



Lumens per watt

Incandescent----10 - 20 LPW

Halogen----------15 - 25 LPW

Halogen HIR™---20 - 33 LPW

Mercury--------40 - 60 LPW

Compact Fluorescent----55 - 80 LPW

Linear Fluorescent------60 - 105 LPW

Metal Halide-------------80 - 105 LPW

Ceramic Metal Halide-----90 - 105 LPW

High Pressure Sodium-----65 - 140 LPW

Low Pressure Sodium---150 - 200 LPW

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