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Re: Energy Saving Device - Join Us and we shall build together
« Reply #200 on: February 10, 2011, 04:49:56 PM »
Sis... A simple definition of free energy, is an energy that you will not shell out any money that you can harness.(from sis Siopao)

Itama mo ako  kung mali ako ha...... 

Ex,  may nagbigay sakin ng Bike na may Car Alternator,  sinamahan nya ng Bateria at isang bumbila(LIBRE) .... Pinadyakan ko ito nagkarga ang bateria  nagkaroon ako ng ilaw... di ko binayaran ang sarili ko dahil normal lang  naman na kumakain tayo....  FREE  ENERGY BA UNG LIWANAG NG BUMBILA?  sensya napo  nag aaral lang........

itagalog lang ha mahina tayo sa Inglis... TY   hehehe..... 

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Re: Energy Saving Device - Join Us and we shall build together
« Reply #201 on: February 10, 2011, 05:10:07 PM »
Sis... A simple definition of free energy, is an energy that you will not shell out any money that you can harness.(from sis Siopao)

Itama mo ako  kung mali ako ha...... 

Ex,  may nagbigay sakin ng Bike na may Car Alternator,  sinamahan nya ng Bateria at isang bumbila(LIBRE) .... Pinadyakan ko ito nagkarga ang bateria  nagkaroon ako ng ilaw... di ko binayaran ang sarili ko dahil normal lang  naman na kumakain tayo....  FREE  ENERGY BA UNG LIWANAG NG BUMBILA?  sensya napo  nag aaral lang........

itagalog lang ha mahina tayo sa Inglis... TY   hehehe..... 

ummm yeah may bayad yan. kasi binili mo yung pagkain mo...
LIBRE is Example...

bumili ka nang solar panel cost 30K yung solar panel is nag generate nang kuriente worth 30K pesos worth kwh sa meralco over the period of 2 years...

kung gumagana pa yung solar panel mo after nya mabayaran ang sarili nya... free energy na yun.
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« Reply #201 on: February 10, 2011, 05:10:07 PM »

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Re: Energy Saving Device - Join Us and we shall build together
« Reply #202 on: February 10, 2011, 05:39:24 PM »
Sis... A simple definition of free energy, is an energy that you will not shell out any money that you can harness.(from sis Siopao)

Itama mo ako  kung mali ako ha...... 

Ex,  may nagbigay sakin ng Bike na may Car Alternator,  sinamahan nya ng Bateria at isang bumbila(LIBRE) .... Pinadyakan ko ito nagkarga ang bateria  nagkaroon ako ng ilaw... di ko binayaran ang sarili ko dahil normal lang  naman na kumakain tayo....  FREE  ENERGY BA UNG LIWANAG NG BUMBILA?  sensya napo  nag aaral lang........

itagalog lang ha mahina tayo sa Inglis... TY   hehehe..... 

Ganito, kung mamilosopo ka lang dito just to stand on your own opinion, I guess nasa mali kang lugar.

Ok lang maki argue, just make sure you are arguing sensibly. Pero kung ganyan ang banat mo dahil gusto mo lang eh paniwalaan ng tao ang paniniwala mo, again I am telling you, nasa mali kang lugar.

Kahit pa FREE ang makukuha mo na ENERGY sa araw, hindi free ang pagconvert nito sa usable form na gusto mo, pwera lang kung gusto mo umitim or ang kailangan mo ay magpainit. So kung tanungin kita, dahil ba gumamit ka ng solar cell para magkaroon ka ng kuryente galing sa araw eh considered na itong hindi free energy?

Mag direkta na lang tayo sa punto, I will be locking this thread isa pang makita ko na hindi sensible na reply sa thread na ito.

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« Reply #202 on: February 10, 2011, 05:39:24 PM »

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Re: Energy Saving Device - Join Us and we shall build together
« Reply #203 on: February 10, 2011, 05:50:45 PM »
Ganito, kung mamilosopo ka lang dito just to stand on your own opinion, I guess nasa mali kang lugar.

Ok lang maki argue, just make sure you are arguing sensibly. Pero kung ganyan ang banat mo dahil gusto mo lang eh paniwalaan ng tao ang paniniwala mo, again I am telling you, nasa mali kang lugar.

Kahit pa FREE ang makukuha mo na ENERGY sa araw, hindi free ang pagconvert nito sa usable form na gusto mo, pwera lang kung gusto mo umitim or ang kailangan mo ay magpainit. So kung tanungin kita, dahil ba gumamit ka ng solar cell para magkaroon ka ng kuryente galing sa araw eh considered na itong hindi free energy?

Mag direkta na lang tayo sa punto, I will be locking this thread isa pang makita ko na hindi sensible na reply sa thread na ito
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« Reply #203 on: February 10, 2011, 05:50:45 PM »

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Re: Energy Saving Device - Join Us and we shall build together
« Reply #204 on: February 10, 2011, 06:02:09 PM »
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« Reply #205 on: February 10, 2011, 06:39:19 PM »
Ok..pwede na bang mag proceed?  yong sa cfl project ko iniisip ko lang, kaya bang
gawin to?

1. Power source eh water battery
2. From water battery kakabitan ng joule thief circuit na kayang umabot ang
    voltage up to 16volts.
3. Ikabit to don sa pulsating relay na sya namang nagpapailaw nong cfl bulbs.

Ito yong original setup..



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« Reply #206 on: February 10, 2011, 06:44:49 PM »
My water battery specs:

16 tube cells connected in series.
Outer tube is copper, the inner is aluminum
Electrolytes to conduct current: Minimal amount of NaOH

minimal reaction lang don sa aluminum para naman tumagal ng ilang buwan ang oxidation
bago mapudpud.....syempre when there is no reaction there is no current.

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« Reply #207 on: February 10, 2011, 08:11:30 PM »
Ganito, kung mamilosopo ka lang dito just to stand on your own opinion, I guess nasa mali kang lugar.

Ok lang maki argue, just make sure you are arguing sensibly. Pero kung ganyan ang banat mo dahil gusto mo lang eh paniwalaan ng tao ang paniniwala mo, again I am telling you, nasa mali kang lugar.

Kahit pa FREE ang makukuha mo na ENERGY sa araw, hindi free ang pagconvert nito sa usable form na gusto mo, pwera lang kung gusto mo umitim or ang kailangan mo ay magpainit. So kung tanungin kita, dahil ba gumamit ka ng solar cell para magkaroon ka ng kuryente galing sa araw eh considered na itong hindi free energy?

Mag direkta na lang tayo sa punto, I will be locking this thread isa pang makita ko na hindi sensible na reply sa thread na ito.
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« Reply #208 on: February 11, 2011, 12:34:24 PM »
Ganito, kung mamilosopo ka lang dito just to stand on your own opinion, I guess nasa mali kang lugar.

Ok lang maki argue, just make sure you are arguing sensibly. Pero kung ganyan ang banat mo dahil gusto mo lang eh paniwalaan ng tao ang paniniwala mo, again I am telling you, nasa mali kang lugar.

Kahit pa FREE ang makukuha mo na ENERGY sa araw, hindi free ang pagconvert nito sa usable form na gusto mo, pwera lang kung gusto mo umitim or ang kailangan mo ay magpainit. So kung tanungin kita, dahil ba gumamit ka ng solar cell para magkaroon ka ng kuryente galing sa araw eh considered na itong hindi free energy?

Mag direkta na lang tayo sa punto, I will be locking this thread isa pang makita ko na hindi sensible na reply sa thread na ito.

Bro, keep your cool naman. We all have our concepts of free energy. That is your concept and we respect that. To some, free energy is energy available in the environment and ready to be converted to usable form. It is energy which you do not pay for but available for your own use. Even if you have to buy a solar panel, wind turbine, water wheel or battery, as long as the energy source is free (meaning not coming form utility companies), they call it free energy.

I must admit that vox's post was quite sarcastic, even inappropriate, but why threaten the entire thread for that? Because you can? Because you are a GLOBAL MODERATOR? Don't you think that is quite arrogant? Are you being sensible when you issued that threat?

Besides, I know where vox is coming from, and he must have posted that out of exasperation because he is not really an engineer and he can't explain in technical terms what he has been discovering in his experiments. He deliberately brought down the level of his argument maybe to prove a point known only to him. and you took the bait. But had he done that to someone else's post, would you also issue such a threat?

Again, I am not saying that vox's post was appropriate. Just the same, you could have responded professionally.

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« Reply #209 on: February 11, 2011, 06:03:37 PM »
I am bringing back the topic about Engr. Aviso's electric vehicle, not to inspire division or arguments but to investigate for yourselves if this is actually a scam or just plain pinoy intelligence at work:

http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Ismael_Aviso_Self-Charging_Electric_Car#February_8.2C_2011:_Driving_around.2C_stays_at_13_volts

challenge your minds. don't just debunk it if you can't understand it. The demo run was witnessed by a UP professor and 2 other professionals. It is too much to ask for schematics or explicit details. Only a moron will give away his wealth. What we can do is think of the possibilities, not the impossibilities. I am calling those who are willing to put up to the challenge, the electronics engineers whose field of expertise is where this technology resides. Again, I am not totally sold to the technology, but what if, and the question is WHAT IF, this technology is now in existence.

C'mon, guys, two brains are better than one. We have several brains here. Let's investigate this and brainstorm. You would not let yourselves lag behind IF AND WHEN this technology becomes common, would you? So start ahead and be ahead.

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« Reply #210 on: February 11, 2011, 06:36:46 PM »
I am bringing back the topic about Engr. Aviso's electric vehicle, not to inspire division or arguments but to investigate for yourselves if this is actually a scam or just plain pinoy intelligence at work:

http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Ismael_Aviso_Self-Charging_Electric_Car#February_8.2C_2011:_Driving_around.2C_stays_at_13_volts

challenge your minds. don't just debunk it if you can't understand it. The demo run was witnessed by a UP professor and 2 other professionals. It is too much to ask for schematics or explicit details. Only a moron will give away his wealth. What we can do is think of the possibilities, not the impossibilities. I am calling those who are willing to put up to the challenge, the electronics engineers whose field of expertise is where this technology resides. Again, I am not totally sold to the technology, but what if, and the question is WHAT IF, this technology is now in existence.

C'mon, guys, two brains are better than one. We have several brains here. Let's investigate this and brainstorm. You would not let yourselves lag behind IF AND WHEN this technology becomes common, would you? So start ahead and be ahead.

On second thought, I guess we better let this go. we cannot accomplish anything out of this anyway unless a team forms themselves and dedicate time, effort and resources.

Let's just drop this.

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« Reply #211 on: February 11, 2011, 06:40:03 PM »
1. Di ako marunong manakot.
2. As I said, keep this thread  as technical as possible.

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« Reply #212 on: March 06, 2011, 06:18:39 PM »
Unlocking this Thread..

this time, we are only accepting topics about ALTERNATIVE ENERGY that is "MAINSTREAM" .. we do not want to promote ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SYSTEMS that are in VIOLATION of the LAWS OF PHYSICS or UNPROVEN ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SYSTEMS..

Please post unproven alternative energy systems on our CHIT-CHAT SECTION for unmoderated discussion, those kinds of topic will never be locked but please avoid unhealthy discussions due to conflicting theories and personal bias..
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first, there was an inverter air-conditioning system. now LG has recently announced a "linear compressor" with a "free piston mechanism". how about someone explain that? it looks like a very promising technology and the people at the DOE are sure going over the tests to find out the actual EER rating of the LG refs.
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Maraming salamat po kay Ate Shey sa pagdadala ng susi ng padlock, hehehe. And to sis Toasted Siopao for apparently allowing it.

I would like everybody to be reminded of the rule- no shadowy technologies, no violation of physics law, no figments of imagination. Just stay on mainstream principles.

will post some ideas later...

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Mga masters, can anybody tell me how much power do Vertical Axis Wind Turbines (VAWT) pack? Like if I want to use it to pump water from a very deep well (say about 50 meters), how much water can be pumped out per minute at wind velocity of 50 km/hour and the VAWT is 1.5 meters diameter with 1 meter height and the fan blades have 15 cm radius, or is it possible to pump out water from such depth in the first place?

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Mga masters, can anybody tell me how much power do Vertical Axis Wind Turbines (VAWT) pack? Like if I want to use it to pump water from a very deep well (say about 50 meters), how much water can be pumped out per minute at wind velocity of 50 km/hour and the VAWT is 1.5 meters diameter with 1 meter height and the fan blades have 15 cm radius, or is it possible to pump out water from such depth in the first place?

depende yan sa lalim ng "water table" sa lugar mo, yung pinuntahan ko sa Dinalupihan sa Bataan, hindi na kailangan ang water pump, kusang dumadaloy ang tubig at tuloy tuloy ito...

sa amin sa Sta. Rosa, Nueva Ecija, merong gumagamit ng wind driven water pumps....

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meron ako recently nakita water powered water pump....

basta sumali yun sa isang international competition...


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