Energy Saving Device / Alternative Energy ( Must Not Violate LAWS of PHYSICS )

[labgruppen]

mpisahan ko na...ito yong ginawa kung CFL lighting...0.02 amp lang...hindi pa masyado maliwanag

sir, i think it is 0.2Amp (200mA) not 0.02Amp (20mA)..



a bunch of LEDs might offer comparable if not brighter light at that power consumption (200mA@12V is about 2.4watts). yun nga lang mas mahal ang LEDs, but then again mahal din ang ignition coil. at may mga murang chinese white led flashlights wherein the LEDs can be rewired to series/parallel for 12V operation. (normally the LEDs are wired in parallel for 4.5V operation). just my thoughts anyway..
overall, nice job sir.   you might want to consider winding a custom transformer using the ferrite cores from discarded pc powersupplies..

[iyo karpo]

Lumens per watt

Incandescent----10 - 20 LPW

Halogen----------15 - 25 LPW

Halogen HIR™---20 - 33 LPW

Mercury--------40 - 60 LPW

Compact Fluorescent----55 - 80 LPW

Linear Fluorescent------60 - 105 LPW

Metal Halide-------------80 - 105 LPW

Ceramic Metal Halide-----90 - 105 LPW

High Pressure Sodium-----65 - 140 LPW

Low Pressure Sodium---150 - 200 LPW

This information is taken from GE Lighting
For more information about Lighting click
http://www.gelighting.com/na/business_lighting/education_resources/

[amadjo01]

wow, dami na updates,, reading mode lang po muna ako dito,

[RiDdLeR???]

I'm a bit skeptic on this one if it is actually more efficient but monitor mode lang ako.  Keep up the good work and update us on your progress.

[2bighybrid]

@labgruppen
Huo nga no. 200ma lang pala....anyway, there are still more updates to come..hindi lang naman ako eh..at least magandang thread yata to...I know marami taga elabs mayron pang mga ibang klaseng energy saving device..post na lang ciguro..

Post ng may meron na dyan...at yong mga Masters natin ang magbibigay ng technical
explanation para marami makikinabang...

This Resonant/Oscillation cfl project is scalable..ayusin ko lang e drawing yong circuit...bibili pa ko additional 2n30555 trans at Car Ignition Coil...post lang ulit ako ng results mga Bro's & Sis.

[labgruppen]

sir 2big, for higher efficiency you are better off with ferrite cored transformers (ex, discarded pc power supply traffo, flyback traffos) than with laminated iron core based such as ignition coils. the reason being at high oscillation frequencies, the losses goes up quickly on iron cored transformers. this is also the reason why electronic ballasts use ferrite cored traffos.
btw, could you measure the current drain without load? i ask this so that we can better quantify the efficiency of the circuit.

[2bighybrid]

sir 2big, for higher efficiency you are better off with ferrite cored transformers (ex, discarded pc power supply traffo, flyback traffos) than with laminated iron core based such as ignition coils. the reason being at high oscillation frequencies, the losses goes up quickly on iron cored transformers. this is also the reason why electronic ballasts use ferrite cored traffos.
btw, could you measure the current drain without load? i ask this so that we can better quantify the efficiency of the circuit.

Yes...nice suggestion...I will try to measure that once I have the completed parts already. For now kasi, naka sched akong mag linis ng HHO gen ko at mag setup ng bagong coil don sa HHO electrical system ko for a long drive tomorrow..

[2bighybrid]

Share ko lang ulit mga kapatid...It was been posted in my other thread but wish ko lang sana may gumawa nito na mas efficient pa.

[drin20]

Energy saving device ko (matagal lang return of investment)

Deep Cycle Battery 12 volts @ 100 amp


20 watts Solar panel(mono-crystalline)


CD-R King Power inverter


Malaking PCB Power Inverter (pero pinaliit ko na)

[undergrad]

@drin_pogi mga ilang oras na charge mo 3sm battery Sir? At magkano yung 20watts solar panel at battery. May ginamit ka pangrecharge dyan.

[jamz]

basta wag ninyong itapon ang mga busted cfl ninyo.  mostly electronics lang ang sira niyan. merong available na schematic sa internet para marepair yan. Yung mga circuit nila ang mahina dahil siguro sa fluctation ng koryente.  Merong mga CFL na made in china, 30 petot lang , then pwede imodify ang circuit. Tested ko sa nabasag na orig na cfl na inilipat ko ang circuit sa china made. Hanggang ngayon 2 years old na, working good pa rin.

 Kung busted na ung filament, pwede na etong high voltage ballast na nakapost dito.

[iyo karpo]

basta wag ninyong itapon ang mga busted cfl ninyo.  mostly electronics lang ang sira niyan. merong available na schematic sa internet para marepair yan. Yung mga circuit nila ang mahina dahil siguro sa fluctation ng koryente.  Merong mga CFL na made in china, 30 petot lang , then pwede imodify ang circuit. Tested ko sa nabasag na orig na cfl na inilipat ko ang circuit sa china made. Hanggang ngayon 2 years old na, working good pa rin.

 Kung busted na ung filament, pwede na etong high voltage ballast na nakapost dito.

ung white phospor ng CFL, may mercury yan...baka mapunta sa water system, sa dagat at sa mga seafoods natin...cause yan ng birth defects.

[Woots29]

monitoring...

[Warstg_20]

wow, dami na updates,, reading mode lang po muna ako dito,

ako rin reading mode...

wala akong masabi,.

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@ drin_pogi  

use hi power LEDs instead of CFLs to eliminate inverter loss

try thi link http://www.electronicslab.ph/forum/index.php/topic,18740.msg324258.html#msg324258

[undergrad]

Ano kaya masasabi niyo mga expert?
20w Solar cell + 2sm battery + ups
1.Ang tanong ko dito pwede ba iderekta yung 20w Solar cell sa 2sm battery?
2. Ilang oras naman ma full charge?
3. Yung sa UPS kung palitan ang battery ng 2sm battery tatagal ba ang UPS dahil sa original battery lang natagal ng 30mins lang?

[drin20]

@drin_pogi mga ilang oras na charge mo 3sm battery Sir? At magkano yung 20watts solar panel at battery. May ginamit ka pangrecharge dyan.

@ Undergrad

depende kasi sa load. @ 20 watts. 1.6 amp charging current. may loss pa.

sa preliminary test ko using 2 12 volts 11 watts na CFL. using it for 6 hours. it takes 10 hours bago ma full charge ang battery.

PWM and SOC charge controller


20 watts solar panel = 4400 petot (mura na lang ito ngayon 170 petot na lang per watt sa www.aceelectechcenter.com and www.rhidalgohardware.com)

deep cycle battery (100 amp / 12 volts solar master) = 6,200 petot
 

@ drin_pogi 

use hi power LEDs instead of CFLs to eliminate inverter loss

try thi link http://www.electronicslab.ph/forum/index.php/topic,18740.msg324258.html#msg324258

@ piona 

medyo bluish LED and directional ang liwanag. pero try ko pa rin
mga ilan watts and LED to compete atleast 23 watts of CFL?

Ano kaya masasabi niyo mga expert?
20w Solar cell + 2sm battery + ups
1.Ang tanong ko dito pwede ba iderekta yung 20w Solar cell sa 2sm battery?
2. Ilang oras naman ma full charge?
3. Yung sa UPS kung palitan ang battery ng 2sm battery tatagal ba ang UPS dahil sa original battery lang natagal ng 30mins lang?

hindi ako expert pero according to my opinion
Don't use UPS naka design lang yan 20 - 30 minutes operation. better use power inverter

1. pwedi mu naman iderekta lagyan mu lang ng blocking diode (Schottky diode gamitin mu para efficient low voltage drop) madali lang masisira battery mu. dahil sa overcharge.

2. gawa ka ng charge monitor / controller (hindi muna kailangan ng blocking diode kung meron ka nito)

3. experience ko lang sa UPS ng APC- automatic shutdown 20 - 30 minutes. kahit full charge battery ko. wala rin over heat. better use true sine wave power inverter.

medyo mahal talaga solar panel. sa ilaw ko lang naman ginagamit at soon sa LED TV.
kesa naman mangapa ako sa dilim pag blockout.

[undergrad]

@drin_pogi
ok thank you sa pagsagot.

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eto drin_pogi LED, CFL, Incandescent comparison 



u may try other data source to comfirm this...

[nucleus]

@labgruppen
Huo nga no. 200ma lang pala....anyway, there are still more updates to come..hindi lang naman ako eh..at least magandang thread yata to...I know marami taga elabs mayron pang mga ibang klaseng energy saving device..post na lang ciguro..

Post ng may meron na dyan...at yong mga Masters natin ang magbibigay ng technical
explanation para marami makikinabang...

This Resonant/Oscillation cfl project is scalable..ayusin ko lang e drawing yong circuit...bibili pa ko additional 2n30555 trans at Car Ignition Coil...post lang ulit ako ng results mga Bro's & Sis.

44W parin para doon sa dalawang 18W na bulb