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Making double-sided PCBs?
« on: April 25, 2008, 07:30:14 PM »
I hate to admit it, but I've never made a double-sided PCB. Do you have any tips on what to do, and what to watch out for?

One thing that has kept me from trying it is having to solder every component on both sides. It's fine with most discrete components. But when it comes to IC sockets, headers, and other connectors, it's looks like a real pain, if even possible. Some sort of through-hole plating will take care of that problem, but then I don't know how to do that either :'(. I've read about some sort of small hollow tubes which can be cut up, placed into the drill holes, and then soldered on both sides to achieve the same effect. Is there anything like that available locally?

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Making double-sided PCBs?
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Re: Making double-sided PCBs?
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2008, 09:26:08 PM »
meron sa farnell nung parang rivets, pero wala yung parang pliers na pang-ipit.

alignment ang mahirap sa double sided PCB. kailangan double check lagi kung tapat. pwede gumamit ng pilot holes or markings para magtapat.
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Re: Making double-sided PCBs?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 09:41:37 PM »
I use stripped kaynar wire to connect through vias and holes. Mas madali at pwedeng gawing manipis and solder blob, kaya mas malinis tignan. If you have to use IC socket, use hirel socket. Yung exposed portion ng pins nya on the component side allows you to solder on both sides.  :)
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Re: Making double-sided PCBs?
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2008, 04:58:01 PM »
Here's how I make my double-sided PCBs (using presensitized).  I hope it helps.  ;)

Before printing your design, create 'registers' on them  Just like in professional printing, these registers serve as a way to align pages.  For me, I use the corners and the perimeter of the board design as my registers.  Create a copper track (usually ground plane)  on the sides and corners.

1. Have both your top and bottom design laser printed on clean sheet of bond paper.  I strongly suggest that you get to print them on separate sheets.   It lessens the probability of having the design distorted.  Also, Try printing it on any far-end of the paper.  I'll explain later why.

2. Find a photocopying machine that uses powder to imprint the copy.  Powder photocopiers produce cleaner results.  Also, make sure it can also print on acetate.  Using the photocopying machine, transfer your design on acetate.  Make two copies of each side.  Though, you may opt to have a piece if the copy is satisfactory. (I always prefer to have two copies)

Note:
a. You can directly print your designs on acetate.  Just make sure they are exact.
b. By experience, when printing or photocopying on acetate, copies tend to come out distorted.  The designs tend to shrink or stretch (heat?), thus, I asked you to make a paper printout.
c. As much as possible, try to orient your copy in a way that the side where it is placed will come out of the photocopying machine first.  Most distortions happen at the end of the photocopying process.


3. Place each copy of the acetate on top of the paper copy.  Check to see of the acetate matches exactly the paper copy.  If not, redo Step 2.  It's very important that every corner and hole match.

If you created a single copy of each side, you may skip this step.

4. Trim the excess acetate from your copies.  Just make sure that the first acetate copy of a side has a bigger clearing from the printout compared to the second acetate copy.  Do the same on the opposite side. Ex. acetate_copy_top_1 has a clearing of 1.5 inches while acetate_copy_top_2 has a clearing of 1 inch.  Tape them together.  again, make sure that every corner and hole is aligned.

5. Now, place both top and bottom acetate copies against each other, as if they're both on an actual PCB board.

6. Tape two of its corners (upper-right with lower-left OR upper-left with lower-right).  Again, check for misalignment.

You are now ready to expose your double-sided PCB!

Using a UV Box:

1. Peel the protective covering on both sides of the PCB.
2. Insert the PCB at the center of your acetate designs like a sandwich.  Align! 

Note:
d. Remember the registers I told you about earlier, this is where it comes in handy.  With the help of those markings, I know where to center the PCB... right smack at the middle!


3. Secure the two corners of the PCB on the acetate (tape at the corners where the acetate's corners aren't taped) with a tape. This will ensure that the PCB doesn't move during the entire exposure process. 

4. Expose one side.  When done, slowly flip the board then expose the other side.

5. Remove the PCB from the acetate sandwich. 

6. Develop.

7. Etch.

Note:
e. When developing and etching, don't let any side touch the developing or etching basin.  It'll ruin the design. 
f. I suggest you hold it with your fingers... with rubber gloves of course!
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8. Try drilling a whole on one of the through-holes.  If comes out on the other side in place, then, CONGRATULATIONS!  You've done a great job!  If not, practice makes perfect.  I've been doing this process several times already.  It hasn't failed me yet.

If you're not using a UV Box, make sure you cover the other side that's not being exposed with an opaque object.  Use two pieces of glass to sandwich them together.

I hope this helps.

Any comments or suggestions?  They are welcomed!  ;D ;D ;D


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Re: Making double-sided PCBs?
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2008, 04:58:01 PM »

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Re: Making double-sided PCBs?
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2008, 12:58:24 PM »
^ WOW! bigtime may UV exposure box ;D ;D
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Re: Making double-sided PCBs?
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2008, 02:40:18 PM »
na try ko rin once using EAGLE kc limited yung space. eto po konting tips na sana makatulong

1. gumamit ako ng mas malalaking solder pads.
2. i enlarged the vias. (pag maliit kc e sisirain lng ng drillbit mo at para hindi siya tutuklap sa init ng solder tip)
3. for ICs iniwasan kong mag-route sa ibabaw (solder pencil kc gamit ko nun hindi hot-air reflow kaya mahirap magsolder sa ilalim ng IC)
4. Don't forget to place fiducials on at least 3 corners. gagamitin mo to sa pag-align
5. i followed the instructions written on the plastic container of the presensitized  PCB from Alexan
6. hehehe pero not all of it. 
    wala ako UV exposure box kaya ginawa ko after peeling the plastic cover of the PCB, I dabbed a small amount of the etching solution       
    on the PCB surface..
    ginawa ko yun para dumikit yung acetate..mas matindi kc surface tension niya kesa yung plain water lng..pressout the bubbles...
    d mo na kailangan ng glass na pang-ipit
7. after aligning, inexpose ko na sa table lamp ko
8. develop then etch then drill
9. i connected the vias using the thinnest wires i can find..hehe manomano
10. tuloy tuloy na...

hope some helps!

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Re: Making double-sided PCBs?
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2008, 10:46:36 AM »
errata on
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6. hehehe pero not all of it. 
    wala ako UV exposure box kaya ginawa ko after peeling the plastic cover of the PCB, I dabbed a small amount of the developer....
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