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How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« on: November 15, 2010, 09:32:55 AM »
I've been using Proteus software since I've started making PCBs. Since I haven't seen a way how to do auto-routing in single sided PCB in E-Lab, I would be happy to share what I've watched on youtube (This is not my video). This would be helpful for people who are not giving much importance on time to design their PCBs since they have their own priorities in doing their projects.

Instructions are there on the video.



I've listed some advantages and disadvantages.

Advantages:
-Useful for beginners
-Good looking PCB design
-Saves your time
-No need to use dual sided PCBs
-No more jumpers to make and to solder
-Can guide you in case you would make manual routing PCB designs

Disadvantages:
-there are some instances that some lines are not connected so you have to do it manually
-applicable only in Proteus ARES (not sure with the others)
-sizes of routes are limited
-wont develop your PCB designing skills

You can add more disadvantages and advantages. Feel free to leave some of your comments.

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How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« on: November 15, 2010, 09:32:55 AM »

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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2010, 03:54:56 PM »
wow galing, lagi kasing double sided kapag nag a-auto route ako eh... thanks

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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 12:17:28 PM »
nice share, +1 point ka jan bozz

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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 12:17:28 PM »

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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 12:26:28 PM »
Thanks :)

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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 09:04:09 PM »
I've listed some advantages and disadvantages.

Advantages:
-Useful for beginners  >:( NO THIS IS NOT USEFUL AT ALL. Manual ROUTE dapat. no room for excuses here!
-Good looking PCB design  >:( WHAT?! NO WAY THIS WOULD LOOK GOOD AT ALL! (all caps)
-Saves your time  ;D but not on the long run!  >:( TRUST ME!
-No need to use dual sided PCBs  ;D TRUST ME this will make more bad looking jumpers at final design
-No more jumpers to make and to solder  >:( NO ABSOLUTE WAY.
-Can guide you in case you would make manual routing PCB designs  ;D ;D ;D natawa na lang ako sa grammar.

Disadvantages:
-there are some instances that some lines are not connected so you have to do it manually ... :P :P :P so.....
-applicable only in Proteus ARES (not sure with the others;D ano ba talaga?
-sizes of routes are limited  ;D
-wont develop your PCB designing skills ( ;D ;D ;D FINALLY TAMA DIN! ;D ;D ;D)


my point is wag madali. just don't use the autorouter. may command line mode na pwede mag "auto route" but only per trace. then again even this makes more messy routes.
madaming techniques na madedevelop kung early stages pa lang nang learning curve mo is sanay at gamay mo mag manual routing.
matagal na ako nag dedesign sa proteus. honestly. i rarely use it sa lahat nang route.

* instead of jumpers use a 0 ohm resistor sa design.
* smt, smt and SMT! no excuses here. (big pill to swallow pero "madali lang pala")
* by heart kung alam mo yung route mo. even after a month alam mo pa din kung anong route yun. with autorouter... who hells know what route does.
* FINALLY. hindi optimized ang autorouter for single sided board. (sadly).

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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2011, 09:38:07 AM »
nice objection :D :D :D :D

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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2011, 01:12:14 PM »
nice objection :D :D :D :D
i don't think so... batas yan eh.

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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2011, 01:24:56 PM »
8051 stuff

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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2011, 01:29:03 PM »
^ classic.
Page 20 "autorouters"

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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2011, 01:35:58 PM »
“Real PCB designers don’t auto route!” :D :D :D
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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 05:01:02 PM »
yup dapat tlga kung professional na ndi na magaautoroute

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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 05:27:30 PM »
pero sa 6 layers and up mag autoroute ako :D
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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2011, 08:42:30 PM »
best part ;D

Signature
Like any work of art, no board is complete without adding your name or signature to it!
The signature can take any form your like. Some people put their name, initials, or a fancy symbol. Whatever it
is, just make sure you add something.
A signature can be placed on any of the copper layers, or on the component overlay.

sa industry ginagamit din naman 'yung autoroute, pero ilang traces lang. 'yung mga sensitive traces, manual route pa rin. auto place ang taboo. ;D
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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2011, 11:12:36 PM »
Where auto-routing is always useful is in testing component layout. Run the autorouter (not necessarily until it has finished trying)
and look at the failed routes. Congested area, mis-alignments, long traces on critical signals should all become apparent and
suggest how the layout could be improved. A few times round this loop generally finds a better layout whether auto or manually
routing the final PCB.
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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2011, 02:31:49 AM »
maganda rin ipractice sa PCB design ang parallel/star grounding..

most of the time nagkakandalokoloko ang signals lines mo because of this(masyadong malaki ang iniikutan ng ground line mo)...(adding up of unwanted inductance sa PCB), lalo na kung switching at higher freq yun :D

at syempre for double sided iwas magkaparallel ang plane ng positive supply to ground, for capacitance...


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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2011, 03:04:17 AM »
Kung power at ground ang magkapatong ok lang yun, in the first place, lagi naman silang coupled ng capacitor. ;)

Kung properly bypassed/decoupled yung board at components, virtually the same lang para sa high frequency signal yung ground at power plane dahil shorted na yung caps na nagko-connect sa kanila.
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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2011, 08:22:25 AM »
Where auto-routing is always useful is in testing component layout. Run the autorouter (not necessarily until it has finished trying)
and look at the failed routes. Congested area, mis-alignments, long traces on critical signals should all become apparent and
suggest how the layout could be improved. A few times round this loop generally finds a better layout whether auto or manually
routing the final PCB.

Agree ako dito. Don't feel guilty to use the autorouter.
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Re: How to do: Single layer PCB auto-routing on (Proteus ARES)
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2011, 02:43:29 PM »

my point is wag madali. just don't use the autorouter. may command line mode na pwede mag "auto route" but only per trace. then again even this makes more messy routes.
madaming techniques na madedevelop kung early stages pa lang nang learning curve mo is sanay at gamay mo mag manual routing.
matagal na ako nag dedesign sa proteus. honestly. i rarely use it sa lahat nang route.


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