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Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« on: December 16, 2010, 05:26:32 PM »
Good day,

Hihingi lang po ng tips...Hindi ko linya ang electronics pero gusto ko sana gumawa ng simpleng led message display.

may nakita ako ganitong schematic..
source:  http://english.cxem.net/home/home48.php



1. baka may paraan pa para maging mas simple... plano ko sana na sa breadboard (unless di pede kasi nakaseries ata ang led) lang gawin...
2. or pwede pa kaya may idagdag para hindi lang running message display...pede blinking, etc.
3. pwede kaya jan ang 14-segment display (without microcontroller, or programing needed)? hindi ako masyado pamilyar how it works.
4. madali kaya hanapin yang mga pyesa na yan?

or pwede ko na lang kaya imodify eto:
http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/projects/heart.htm
 eto naman eh almost the same..pero sa halip na single na LED at sa halip na heart shape eh papalitan ko ng marami led na letters na(same sa taas, e.g "welcome")

or kung meron kayong alam na diagram ng ganyan eh pashare na lang.basta hindi kelngan ng programming. wala ako alam dun eh..

maraming salamat..

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Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« on: December 16, 2010, 05:26:32 PM »

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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 05:39:10 PM »
almost  same concept lang yan... 4017 decade counter can do the work..

modify nyu  nlng.... ang circuit..
pag-aralan ng mabuti ang sequence niya  para di maligaw...

ito ang datasheet niya --> http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/26855/TI/CD4017.html

pwede naman kayong gumamit kahit anung display output ang gamitin nyu ma-single LED man o segment display.. (alphanumeric)

anu pala binabalak mung i display ?
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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 05:46:20 PM »
para saan yun 28 na diodes sa schematic?

name lang din ang plano ko idisplay..papalitan ko lang ang letters ng welcome.

wala din kasi ako mahanap na ibang diagram..pedeng ganyan lang or kung may iba pa na di naman masyado madugo gawin eh pwede rin..


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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 05:57:47 PM »
yung diagram po ba sa taas ang tinatanong nyu ?

D21-28 = is serve as fast diode.. & also serve as feedback blocker...

kong regarding sa papalitan nyu lang ang welcome ng letter...
pwede naman yan...  anung bang letra ang gusto nyung palabasin ?
how many letters ?

dapat wag na kayong lumampas ng 10 letters dahil hanggang 10 outputs lang ang 4017
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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 06:16:42 PM »
Questions

1. yun individual LEDs per letter,  naka parallel lang ba lahat yan with each having their own current limiting resistor?

2. Ano mangyayari kung wala yung 28 diodes?
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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 06:25:08 PM »
2. Ano mangyayari kung wala yung 28 diodes?

hhmmm... kng wala ang mga diodes hmmm...  pag-iisipan ko muna...

possible na magkakaroon ng feedback mula sa transistor papasok sa mga outputs pin ng 4017... kaya may tendency na masisisra xa...

correct me nalang po if im wrong
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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 11:13:07 PM »
hmm....chineck ko datasheet ng 4017.  parang ang nangyayari ata is out of the 10 output pins ng decade counter, isa lang ang naka high.  So pag nag trigger yung pin na pang W, iilaw yung W

then pag nag trigger yung pang E,  dapat umilaw yung WE

then pag nag trigger yung pang L,  dapat umilaw yung WEL.... and so on.

So yung mga diode ata is para i bias yung transistor nung mga previous letters.
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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 12:06:08 AM »
hmm....chineck ko datasheet ng 4017.  parang ang nangyayari ata is out of the 10 output pins ng decade counter, isa lang ang naka high.  So pag nag trigger yung pin na pang W, iilaw yung W

then pag nag trigger yung pang E,  dapat umilaw yung WE

then pag nag trigger yung pang L,  dapat umilaw yung WEL.... and so on.

So yung mga diode ata is para i bias yung transistor nung mga previous letters.

yapz  tama..  nahihilo aku sa diagram pabaliktad kasi.. ;D

@TS bali ganito ang mangyayari pag kong tatanggalin iyong diode na D21-D1

isa isang iilaw ang bawat letra na magkasunod... mula W hanggang sa E.
kong ikakabit naman ulit ay iyong statement ni sis Macgyver ang magaganap


iyong diode D22 pala hanggang D28 naman ay yung tinutukoy kong fast diode or feedback blocker....
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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2010, 12:08:49 AM »
hhmmm... kng wala ang mga diodes hmmm...  pag-iisipan ko muna...

possible na magkakaroon ng feedback mula sa transistor papasok sa mga outputs pin ng 4017... kaya may tendency na masisisra xa...

correct me nalang po if im wrong

teka bat nawala yung sagot ko sa number 1.

1. yun individual LEDs per letter,  naka parallel lang ba lahat yan with each having their own current limiting resistor?

parang naka parallel lang po yata yan  ;D with respect to different current limiter resist.
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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2010, 07:45:29 AM »
mejo malinaw na ang lahat...
kulang na lang eh pyesa para masubukan...
kaso baka after christmas na.

isa pa pala. ilang volts ang LED ko?
at ano ang default na frequency kung di ako maglalagay ng potentiometer?

pasensya po ha, mejo matanong, minor subject lang kasi samin to dati kasi mech eng talaga ako,. pero mejo may interest ako sa mga ganito...hehehe

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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2010, 08:58:17 AM »
nasa mga 2v ata mga LED.  depende sa kulay din.  best is bili ka ng LED, magseries ka ng 1k resistor muna then read mo voltage drop across the LED,  then saka ka magcompute ng proper current limiting resistor value.

google mo lang "555 calculator",  basta computations of freq will usually depend sa  2 resistors and 1 capacitor.
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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2010, 10:52:04 AM »
ano pala yung CP0 at CP1?

tsaka may alam ba kayo online store.. pra may idea lang ako magkano ang mga yan...in pesos..


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Re: Simple Message Display .. pahingi ng advice...
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2010, 11:27:43 AM »
CP -  clock pulse siguro?  malamang nasa datasheet nung decade counter.   i YM mo na lang yung mga tao sa e-gizmo.  mas madali.  nasa website nila yung mga YM.
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