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Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« on: May 31, 2011, 10:24:35 PM »
Paano malalaman kung battery, alternator or starter (or may short) ang may problema kung ayaw magstart?

One time nagkaproblema ako kasi ayaw magstart ng kotse ko so nung ipinatulak ko ok naman nagstart sya. It was ok for two weeks then biglang ayaw na naman magstart at palagi na nangyayari kahit kapapatay ko pa lang ng makina ko.

Nagtry ako magki-tap ng battery sa kaopisina ko at one shot nagstart naman. nakatakbo pa ako from laguna to manila pero nung pinatay ko makina ko, ayun na naman.

Kaninang umaga check ko voltage sa battery habang di pa nakastart makina, it's 12.3V. Pero kapag nagaattemp ako magstart bumabagsak ng 11V(I think expected naman to, tumataas ulet after attempt magstart).

Ayaw pa rin magstart so nanghiram ako ng bagong battery para maistart ang auto. Naistart ko naman then check ko voltage it was around 14V then nung binuhay ko aircon at ilaw it dropped to 13.7V.

Inassume ko na hindi alternator ang problema since nagstart naman sya sa tulak, at 13.7V naman nasusukat ko kapag buhay makina. Hindi rin siguro starter kasi kung freshly charged ang battery eh one shot lang start na makina ko. Hindi rin siguro short kasi naretain sa around 12V battery ko since sunday upto now(tue night) na hindi ko ginagamit sasakyan.

So battery ko ang may diperensya? Tama ba analysis ko? Ang problema 1.5Yrs pa lang battery ko (Puma Brand) at hindi pa naman bad ang nakalagay sa indicator(maintenance free type nga pala ito).

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Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« on: May 31, 2011, 10:24:35 PM »

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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2011, 10:53:39 PM »
usually battery, ganyan nga. (pero pagbigyan natin yung battery)
pa recharge mo sa vulcanizing shop.
baka alternator nga ang issue at hindi battery.

2nd is baka naman hindi malinis yung contacts.
minsan nangyari na sakin yan na maluwag lang at madumi.
sabon, tubig at liha lang ang katapat kapag ganyan.

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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2011, 10:53:39 PM »

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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2011, 10:56:11 PM »
Check the battery warranty ....  if its already over the warranty period, anytime soon malapit ng bumigay ang battery.  No questions asked as the battery was really designed to last approximately just a little bit over the warranty period.

I've managed to stretch out the life of my battery (motolite gold / 21 months warranty) upto 27 months just until last week.  The last indicator that made me decide to change the battery was I fully charged my battery in the morning in preparation for a trip in the afternoon.  In the aftertoon, hindi na kaya start.

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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2011, 11:01:16 PM »
battery nga po sir, mabilis na siya magdischarge at baka hirap narin mag-recharge, sa car ko ok pa yung battery mag-po-four years konang gamit, motolite. tapos bumili rin ako ng back-up battery,  motolite ri :) enduro15 15 for 15 months warranty.
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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2011, 11:08:12 PM »
battery na yan sis
mahinang klase yata ang puma na yan
pang sapatos lang yata ang puma
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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2011, 11:17:18 PM »
battery na yan sis
mahinang klase yata ang puma na yan
pang sapatos lang yata ang puma
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kapag ayaw na mag start,posible na ung wiring lang or battery na or alternator ang diperensya :)

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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2011, 11:38:19 PM »
Check battery terminal. YUng clip or contact niya sa battery ang isang malaking nagbibigay ng problema dyan.

Dapat dyan ay matest from fully charge then how many successful engine rotation ang kaya nya. Bago hindi na nya mapaandar ang sasakyan.

Or baka naman de carbon brush ang alternator mo po at kailangan ng palitan. Loose wiring or grounding.
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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2011, 03:54:00 AM »
sa umaga 12.3V at lumang baterya ... mahina na yan

few days ago lang, ganyan din nakita ko sa oto namin, palit baterya lang (original pa yung lumang battery, umabot almost 6 years!)

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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2011, 04:47:35 AM »
battery ba? die hard na!

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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2011, 06:10:09 AM »
 naincounter ko ganun sa unang post ni boss inso,mostly battey or corroded terminal,pukpukin ko lang terminal,magstart n
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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2011, 06:46:07 AM »
naincounter ko ganun sa unang post ni boss inso,mostly battey or corroded terminal,pukpukin ko lang terminal,magstart n

corroded nga yung terminal pero lagi ko namang nililinis yun, kahit hindi ko ginagamit naiipon corrosion sa negative terminal.


Yung puma baka hiniram yung puma sa eveready na battery, hehehe. So far ok naman nung inistart ko today, obserbahan ko pa, duda rin ako na baka madumi starter ko pero may redonda naman kapag nagstart ako ngayon.
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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2011, 06:53:30 AM »
 dapat pala may extra kang dala na battery sir,sayang din pambayad sa towing,tsaka sa abala,.
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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2011, 01:53:34 PM »


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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2011, 02:14:27 PM »
pag battery terminal corroded umiinit yon habang pinapastart mo, starter po pag kararating mo lang at a min start ka ulit di na nagstart bearing o bushing kadalasan yan dahil sa linear expansion ng metal , bearing o bushing pangatlo maaring alternator yan kung hal. nakaandar kana tanggalin mo ang b+ terminal  kung nammatay yan ang makina mangyayari talaga yon kasi wala nang supply sa magnetic valve, meron namang di totally sira ang alternator maaring undercharge ka  dahil maluwag ang  belt, maikli na ang cb, bearing damage, shaftseal wornout o di kaya'y maluwag ang mula alternator at battery, sanay makakatulong

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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2011, 02:19:48 PM »
kung 12.3v lang nasusukat mo, medyo mahina na nga yang battery. normally kasi 12.6v ang terminal voltage ng battery. patest mo na lang sa mga battery shop para sure ka..

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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2012, 10:00:41 PM »
Suggestion lang po mga sis,, usually pag ayaw mag start ng sasakyan ang una nating naiisip is baka palyado na ang baterya. Mas magandang unahing i-check natin ang baterya hindi lang sa voltage output kundi pati na rin yung concentration ng electrolytes sa bawat cell ng baterya.
May mga baterya na ang voltage reading is more than 12.5v pero below 1.0 naman ang specific gravity ng electrolytes ibig sabihin baterya na ang may problema kaya nahihirapan nang mag start or talagang ayaw nang magstart at kailangan nang i-series. I suggest na bumili ng hydrometer para masukat natin ang specific gravity ng bawat cells na ang reading ay dapat within 1.25 to 1.30 sg.
 IMHO using hydrometer is the surest way to know if your battery is palyado na or working pa. Di ko lang sure kung saan specific place na makakabili ng hydrometer... tanong na lang sis sa mga supplier ng battery o kaya sa ramcar....    :)

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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2012, 12:14:38 AM »
^ maintenance free daw sir eh kaya di masukatan ng specific gravity.

TS, same scenario with my car. Nagpalit lang ako ng batt ok na. Swerte nga at lumalampas
pa ng 1yr sa 'yo. Sa kin yearly change ako dahil maya't-maya start due to field service. Pero
may na encounter din akong ganyang-ganyan mismo na akala ko battery pero solenoid
lang pala ng starter.

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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2012, 01:54:34 AM »
madalas po masira ay ang contact terminal sa loob ng solenoid para mai on ang starter,kung hindi pudpod or sobrang nipis na.pwede naman itong palitan ng panibago.

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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2012, 02:39:32 AM »
Better go to any battery store and have them test ur battery ( it's FREE ), by using proper tools, like BATTERY LOAD TESTER, that way u will be convinced that ur old battery is the culprit of all the annoying problem u got there!
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Re: Auto Battery, Alternator, Starter Troubleshooting
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2012, 09:35:54 PM »
ok na to nasolve na problema nung magpalit ako battery, nagtataka lang ako kasi 1yr lang inabot ng battery ko.
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