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SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« on: June 23, 2011, 07:02:00 PM »
good evening..mga master,may tanggap akong sakura.pag open ko,halos lahat,transistor,shorted..cap/lahat trans sira/5551/5401/9015/9014./c5200/a1943.palit ko laht,ang problema ko ,.normal na po ang R-speaker,pero L-speaker,second lang subrang init c5200,kahit walang load.lahat po diode na check kna,sana matulungan nyo ako,salamat...
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SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« on: June 23, 2011, 07:02:00 PM »

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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2011, 07:18:34 PM »
bak meron change value na resistor. or meron pang small trannies na shorted or open..
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2011, 07:19:43 PM »
anung ngyari daw at ang lawak naman ng sira

ngcheck ka na ba resitor?kung may change valeu?
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2011, 07:27:21 PM »
Power supply siguro. Or baka meron din itong idling.

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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2011, 07:31:28 PM »
kc master ..wala ng fuse jamper isang buo wire talaga,kya halos lahat sira,lahat po ng maliit trans/puro bago na po,hindi po ako masyadong gumagawa ampli kaya hirap ako,anu po sakto pyesa at panu,magtest,kc basa mode  ako ,bago ako mag post,hndi ko kc maintindihan kng san banda magtest ng naka load ang output trans/tnx po.
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2011, 07:36:37 PM »
Sis ndi ba pwidi compare sa kabila channel? Db ok kabila.....
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2011, 07:43:59 PM »
copy mo lang sa kabila, palitan nlang lahat ng resistor mura lang nman :D

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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2011, 07:50:16 PM »
agree..palitan na mga reristor.
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2011, 07:53:18 PM »
mag lagay ka muna ng fuse
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2011, 08:01:44 PM »
Correct palit muna ng fuse. tanggalin muna yang soldang malaking wire sunog na lahat pyesa mo, yan baka di man lang magbaga.
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2011, 08:06:00 PM »
ok,bukas palitan ko lahat resistor/ngaun mga master wala ng init,hang ko ung/ .12 5watts/resistor, naka kunet sa emiter A1943.nawala ang init,kayalang hndi maganda tunog/bukas ko ulit update,salamat mga reply..
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 08:15:12 PM »
agree..palitan na mga reristor.
doble check narin sa mga trannie at baka nahaluan ng fake..
tama baka nahaluan din ng ;D

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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2011, 08:38:23 PM »
ok,bukas palitan ko lahat resistor/ngaun mga master wala ng init,hang ko ung/ .12 5watts/resistor, naka kunet sa emiter A1943.nawala ang init,kayalang hndi maganda tunog/bukas ko ulit update,salamat mga reply..

ibig sabihin naka pwersa ung 1943

ganito gawin mo, check mo lahat ng base emiter ng mga maliliit na transistor kung 0.5 hanggang 0.7

pag sumobra dun o mas mababa may problema sa kasunod nun
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2011, 10:14:21 PM »
parang nasa emitter resistor ng driver ung ngchange value kasi mainit na in seconds...tapos pangit pa ung tunog.
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2011, 10:15:20 PM »
double post.......
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2011, 10:38:23 PM »
parang nasa emitter resistor ng driver ung ngchange value kasi mainit na in seconds...tapos pangit pa ung tunog.

pag driver res ang nag change value, mlamang ganito yun. pag bumaba value iinit ang driver dahil lalaki ang current na dadaan sa kanya pero lalakas ang current papunta sa output kaya lalakas ang amp regardless of the quality of sound. Pag tumaas nman ang value liliit ang drive current sa output at di gaanong magtrabaho ito ibig sabihin di sya gaanong banat kaya dapat lalamig pa nga. iinit ang output pag tumaas yung bias voltage sa driver na parang naging class A sya. Kya naging pangit ang tunog nag hang sya ng resistor sa isang side making the output sinewave only half or 180 deg lang ang signal, pangit tlaga dahil di buo pero walang masirang ibang pyesa. Duda ko rito ang nag change value ay yung upper resistor ng bias transistor making the quiescent current very high.
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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2011, 03:16:22 AM »
patingin naman ng diagram  ;D

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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2011, 08:26:57 AM »
pag driver res ang nag change value, mlamang ganito yun. pag bumaba value iinit ang driver dahil lalaki ang current na dadaan sa kanya pero lalakas ang current papunta sa output kaya lalakas ang amp regardless of the quality of sound. Pag tumaas nman ang value liliit ang drive current sa output at di gaanong magtrabaho ito ibig sabihin di sya gaanong banat kaya dapat lalamig pa nga. iinit ang output pag tumaas yung bias voltage sa driver na parang naging class A sya. Kya naging pangit ang tunog nag hang sya ng resistor sa isang side making the output sinewave only half or 180 deg lang ang signal, pangit tlaga dahil di buo pero walang masirang ibang pyesa. Duda ko rito ang nag change value ay yung upper resistor ng bias transistor making the quiescent current very high.

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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2011, 08:43:12 AM »
halos hawig sya ng sira ng ginagawa q n ampli sakura  din,, sya naman norrmal  kya lang pag nagpatunog k na halimbawa at 1/2hrs na nag init na ang pyesa ssinisira n ang output,,hehe dami n gumawa hindi kya,, hehe pa 6 n q gumawa

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Re: SAKURA AMP/SA-939/second lang umiinit ang C5200
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2011, 08:45:01 AM »
tanong ko mga master,san ba dapat ako  mag ground dun ba center 2cap/10000uf o dito negative ng cap/ kc masmataas boltahe,70v pag sa negative ng cap/ testprod ko,kong centertop naman mas mababa,45v ano po tamang pagtest nito? centertop.o negative cap?kunting paliwanag lang po,salamat po.
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