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Note: Be sure to check out part two of this article!

I continue to receive hits via Google regarding the following enygmatic question… Are Filipinos Asian?

So, in keeping with my mission to further settle this matter once and for all, I thought I would do a follow-up article to a previous post I wrote entitled, Yes, Filipinos Are Asian!

Hopefully, we can convince those naysayers who claim that Filipinos are not Asian, and also persuade those Filipinos who are either unsure, think they are something else like Pacific Islander, or simply want to distance themselves from the Asian classification altogether.

The Official Geographical Definition

Geographically speaking, The Philippines is, in fact, located in Southeast Asia. It is just as far from the Asian continent as Japan, only further south.

Taiwan and Hong Kong are just a few hundred miles to the north and northwest, and even closer still is Malaysia and Indonesia to the south and southwest, respectively.

So regionally, geographically and culturally, The Philippines falls within the boundaries of the Asian continent, and so it is correct for Filipinos to be classified as Asian, specifically Southeast Asian.

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Filipinos Are Asian On A Nationalistic Level

The Philippines is a country in Asia with a similar history to Singapore:

    They both have had ties to European colonization.

    They both have been melting pots of various ethnicities (i.e Malaysian, Chinese, Indian, etc.)

    They both are located in Southeast Asia.

That said, if you are Filipino or Singaporean, then you are referring to yourself on a “nationalistic” level. Though ethnically, you may be Indian, Malaysian, Chinese, or any number of different ethnicities. But nationally you would be considered Filipino or Singaporean.

There is no doubt that Singapore is considered an Asian country, and that Singaporeans are considered Asians. Should there be any doubt then that Filipinos too are Asians?

From Wikipedia.org:

    Asian Americans are Americans of Asian ancestry. They include sub-ethnic groups such as Chinese Americans, Filipino Americans, Indian Americans, Vietnamese Americans, Korean Americans, Japanese Americans, Cambodian Americans, Laotian Americans and others whose national origin is from the Asian continent.

Genetic Studies Show That Filipinos Are Asian

Some interesting genetic studies have shown that Filipino origins can directly be linked to the Ami tribe of Taiwan, considered the closest genetic relative. Overall, genetic studies have connected Filipinos to Chinese, Korean, and Indonesian ethnic groups, all originating from Asia.

From Wikipedia.org:

    Some genetic studies, based upon very small samples of the population, have begun to provide clues to the origins of Filipino people. Much remains to be learned by larger studies of valid statistical significance about the ancestry of the various Austronesian Philippine ethnic groups.

    A Stanford University study conducted during 2001 revealed that Y-chromosome Haplogroup O3-M122 (labeled as “Haplogroup L” in this study) predominates among Filipino males. This particular haplogroup is also predominant among Chinese and Korean males. That finding is consistent with the theory that people migrated from China south into the Philippines.

    Another haplogroup, Haplogroup O1a-M119 (labeled as “Haplogroup H” in this study), is also found among Filipinos. The rates of Haplogroup O1a are highest among the Taiwanese Aborigines. Overall, the genetic frequencies found among Filipinos points to the Ami tribe of Taiwan as their nearest genetic relative.[7]

    A 2002 China Medical University study indicated that certain Filipinos shared a particular gene marker that is also found among Taiwanese aborigines and Indonesians.[8]

    A 2003 University of the Philippines study based on 50 participants each from the islands of Luzon and Cebu provided some insight into the various places of origin of early Filipinos. Some rare genetic markers were found which are shared by people from parts of Asia.

Why Filipinos Shouldn’t Be Called Pacific Islanders

First, let’s look at Wikipedia.org’s definition of a true Pacific Islander:

    Pacific Islander… is a geographic term used in several places, such as New Zealand and the United States, to describe the inhabitants of any of the three major sub-regions of Oceania… Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia.

Wikipedia goes on to specifically explain that The Philippines is considered a part of Asia, and is NOT considered part of Oceania, and Filipinos aren’t recognized to be Pacific Islanders:

    Inhabitants of Russia’s Kuril Islands, Alaska’s Aleutian Islands, and the Taiwanese, Japanese, Philippine, and Indonesian islands, although technically bordering edges of the Pacific Ocean, do not fall under the definition of “Pacific Islanders” because such islands are not actually located within the Pacific or therefore any of the three regions of Oceania (Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia)

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Because of the above definition of “Pacific Islander”, and because The Philippines is excluded (along with other Asian countries such as Taiwan and Japan) from the regions of Oceania, then the above information leads us to conclude that Filipinos simply are not Pacific Islanders.

How Application Forms Caused Part of the Confusion

Many Filipinos in the United States may have filled out college or job applications and had come across the part where you had to check your ethnicity. Many times, “Filipino” was listed separately from Asian, leading people to assume that the two groups are separate.

Why was this? And what was the reasoning behind this? My theory, simply put:

    The Philippines was once a colony of the United States.

    The English language (in addition to the Pilipino langague) is an official language of The Philippines.

    Filipinos have the uniqueness of being under American influence throughout most of the 20th century.

    Filipinos were one of the largest ethnic groups of Asia immigrating into the U.S. during the 20th century.

Is there any wonder that part of the confusion may have originated from The Philippines being a former colony of The United States? And with a need to classify Filipinos apart from other Asian groups, application forms and the like were tailored so that various government, corporate and private organizations could further differentiate certain ethnic groups from one another for statistical purposes.
The Whole APA Fiasco

On the other hand, to add to the confusion, certain authoritative entities had lumped both Asians and Pacific Islanders into one ethnic group for simplicity’s sake… namely APA, or Asia Pacific Americans. Though it may have been innocently done and with good reason, group Asians and Pacific Islanders together into one group has proven detrimental to the identity of Filipinos everywhere.

Here is some information regarding the use of APA, or Asian Pacific American:

    Asian-Pacific American is a term that was used in the United States to include both Asian Americans and Americans of Pacific Islander American due to its official use as a race on the United States Census between the years 1990 and 2000. Since 2000 the United States Census Bureau has split these two groups apart because the majority of the people included in the term considered themselves to be two separate groups when questioned by the anthropologists who designed the racial definitions for the 2000 US Census. Now, Asian American and Pacific Islanders are two separate races on the US Census 2000, so the term Asian-Pacific American has decreased in use.

In Summary

I just wanted to conclude with specific definitions from Wikipedia.org that show differences between Asian and Pacific Islander:

    The definitions and differences between Asian and Pacific Islanders are also clearly defined:

    Asian. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam. Thus it includes “Asian Indian,” “Chinese,” “Filipino,” “Korean,” “Japanese,” “Vietnamese,” and “Other Asian.”

    Pacific Islander.

    A native or inhabitant of any of the Polynesian, Micronesian, or Melanesian islands of Oceania. Some examples of the ethnic groups that would be considered Pacific Islanders are the indigenous peoples of Hawaii, the Marianas, Samoans, Guamanian, Chamoru , Tahitians, Mariana Islander, and Chuukese.

And I hope this finally settles the controversy and answers the questions… people have a right to be proud of their cultural heritage, but it’s important to know exactly what that cultural heritage is, and just as important to convey the truth. Then hopefully, the truth will speak for itself.

Another great read concerning this subject can be found here.

Continue on to Part 2. to that site --->  http://carlosrull.com/2008/03/19/are-filipinos-asian/
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Ito yata yung inilalabas ng mga sikat at nalalaos na tao para mapansin. Kasi maski san sila pumunta at magvoice out ng masamang salita sa Filipino eh me nagrereact maski san na bansa maski di na sumali ang Pilipinas.

Ang Pilipinas ay nasakop ng ibang bansa, andyan ang espanya, Japan, US, at ancient history nakikipagtrade  yata tayo sa maraming bansa. Even our neighboring countries yata is a mixtures of races. Maybe M-alay-ia, SG at Ind-nesia.

Meron tayong katrade na mga intsik, bombay o indian, siguro mga arab at marami pang iba. Some part ng pilipinas natin marami ang lahi galing ng bombay. Maski ang ating pambansang bayani ay mixtures of races at in honor pa sa bansang tsina.

Some of our native language and dialect is based from ancient language IIRC ay sanskrit. See movie of the mummy where jetli and michelle yeow cast. Nabanggit doon na dead language ang sanskrit at siguro'y gamit rin nila noon. Even chamorou, where atom visit the island, have similarity to our language maybe some are modification or evolutions.
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Ito yata yung inilalabas ng mga sikat at nalalaos na tao para mapansin. Kasi maski san sila pumunta at magvoice out ng masamang salita sa Filipino eh me nagrereact maski san na bansa maski di na sumali ang Pilipinas.

ano kaugnayan nun sir?  :-[
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Browse ka pa sis, dito yata sa elab may napost ng ganito. At sa ibang forum same ng title mo. Why they ask this question.

Kaya nasabi ko yun, parang pamilyar eh.
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ito mga katulad ng thread ko sa elab, parang medyo malau :)


anmy evidence ay dito ko nakuha sa site na ito

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=why+FIlipino+different+look+in+asean%3F&oq=why+FIlipino+different+look+in+asean%3F&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=1053661l1056211l11l1064358l7l7l0l0l0l0l5158l18981l5-1.0.1.1.4l7l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=d9280f5c83a29cc9&biw=1024&bih=617

nagresearch mona ako before nagpost ng thread, jan ko nakuha ang link na galing sa yahoo answer

sa baba ng thread

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nagawi ako sa singapore at malaysia dati, napuna ko yung mga taga malaysia mukhang mga pinoy naman ah(ganun din vietnamese)

may mga common words din like buwaya, pinto(pentu), lalaki(lelaki), etc...
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Limot na ako sis kung san yun. Yung link nung iba ay sa blog yata nakalagay.

Basta natandaan ko ay halos same title ng ng thread mo. Sabi sa ibang forum eh matagal na ito. At payo nila ay wag na lang pansinin kasi nagpapapansin lang.

Bottom line nila is maski anong gawin nila nasa SEA ang pilipinas and they must understand that we are mixtures of races. We are not japanese though nakakahawig natin. We are not Indonesian or malaysian though ang ninuno natin ay galing sa kanila.
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nagawi ako sa singapore at malaysia dati, napuna ko yung mga taga malaysia mukhang mga pinoy naman ah(ganun din vietnamese)

may mga common words din like buwaya, pinto(pentu), lalaki(lelaki), etc...


oo nga if they consider chinese and japanese are asian... tapos dinikit ang pinoy dun.. mahalata naman na iba ang itsura ng pinoy.. ang kamukha natin ay vietnamese malaysian indonesian.. etc... so baka magkakapareho lang tayo ng lahi... pero iba siguro yung lahi ng chinese at japanese.. daanin nalang natin sa itsura hehehehe

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Sa Amerika kasi pag sinabi nilang Asian, meaning ang itsura is medyo singkit so pasok dyan ang Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and other countries na ganun ang itsura.

Ang pinoy kasi, hindi singkit so sa mga students ang pinoy is not associated with "Asian".
Usually basis nila is itsura ng mukha. Dahil hindi tayo singkit, at medyo kayumanggi tayo, medyo mas naassociate siguro as either Mexican or siguro Latin America.


Malamang di rin nila alam na ang Pinas eh geographically located sa Asia kaya din siguro may mga nagtatanong ng ganyan.

Pati pala Pakistan is part ng Asia.  Malamang marami sa mundo, including tayo akala Middle East na  Pakistan.  In fact kanina ko lang nalaman na Asia pa rin pala  Pakistan.
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Middle east ay part pa ng asia. And also some part of the old USSR.
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may agimat nga daw ang DUGO ng PINOY.(bamboo)

sanay sa alat ang balat na niluto ng Araw sa kanyang matinding Sikat.

tayo ang sinubok na Asyano...sa dagat pacifico.


yung ibang lahi HILAW pa... ;D ;D ;D
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parang kambal yung muka nung vietnamese at filipina..... hehehehe

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Di ba yung tunay na pinoy mga Negrito? :D ;D :D
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Malay ang tunay na pinoy, pero walang Filipino ngaun na walang ibang lahi, karamihan nde mawawala ang may lahi ng spanish,

yung german maganda kamukha ni catherence zita jones yung mata :)
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Malay ang tunay na pinoy, pero walang Filipino ngaun na walang ibang lahi, karamihan nde mawawala ang may lahi ng spanish,

yung german maganda kamukha ni catherence zita jones yung mata :)
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Ibig bang sabihin mukhang catherine zeta jones si sis red?  :D

Ang mga katutubong pilipino sa atin ay mga aeta, parteng ifugao, kaya meron pa ring magkaibang kaanyuan ayun sa panlabas na pagtingin. Marami pa rin sa katutubong aeta natin at iba pang katutubo ang walang halong dugong banyaga.

Tayo ay mixtures of races.
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