Global Warming - a fake scenario

[your most RIDICULOUS man :)]

greenhouse effect na lang

[iyo karpo]

stronger typhoons and floodings cannot be faked....

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Ondoy flooding, bulacan flooding. Experts say gawa ng tao.

Tao kasi gusto halos sakupin. parte ng ilog sinasakop, parte ng dagat sinasakop. parte ng lawa sinasakop. Kapag ginagamit sandali ng talagang may-ari, nagtataka kunyari.

[robbietan]

stronger typhoons and floodings cannot be faked....

I wonder how they (the environMENTALists) managed this statement. this country doesnt even have historical temperature data but goes along with the b.s. that "the earth is warming up" .  and they dont have any data on typhoons for the last 40 years (max wind speeds, rainfall, etc).

if these people mean that more lives were lost due to typhoons, they are correct. people nowadays live everywhere - under bridges, beside rivers and waterways, dumpsites, etc. in the 70s, areas where flooding occur have no casualties since no one was stupid enough to live there. but now, "developers" (usually the fly by night ones) carve out those areas and sell them as "prime real estate" (provident village anyone?). gullible people (specially those not familiar with the area) go out and buy property and gets shocked when the flood comes in

and no one wonders why idiots like greenpiss dont support population control.

[iyo karpo]

bakit mas malakas na ang mga bagyo ngayon?....squatters ba ang dahilan?

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Basta kami sanay kami sa malakas na bagyo. Wag nga lang lagi.

[robbietan]

bakit mas malakas na ang mga bagyo ngayon?.

no data to support this. not even from pagasa or dost.

[iyo karpo]

no data to support this. not even from pagasa or dost.

is this credible?
http://www.typhoon2000.ph/stormstats/12WorstPhilippineTyphoons.htm

[robbietan]

THE TWELVE WORST TYPHOONS OF THE PHILIPPINES
(1947-2009)

This summary is based on news, weather reports and storm logs, NDCC publications, historical archives and personal accounts.
 Individual tracks are courtesy of Unisys.com. Satellite Images courtesy of Karl Hoarau, NPMOC/Joint Typhoon
Warning Center (taken from the 1970, 1984, 1991 and 1993 ATCRs), NOAA, & Digital-Typhoon.org.

Summary written by Dominic Alojado, MD. with additional information by David Michael V. Padua of Typhoon2000.com.
=====================================================================================================

note: pagasa was founded in 1972 altho there is a weather bureau as far back as 1901. what kinda disturbed me was the summary was written by an "M.D.". and that there is no clear basis why the following typhoons are listed as the 'worst", how the peyso value was adjusted, etc.

however, I may also point out that typhoons before the "global warming era" have winds that exceeded 200 kph (and qualifies as a "superbagyo"). so based solely on that distinction, typhoons then were probably no stronger than the typhoons today

[iyo karpo]

stronger typhoons killing more people cannot be fake.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cagayan-de-oro/local-news/2011/12/17/sendong-leaves-440-dead-196368

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Marami talagang pwedeng mamatay sa malakas na bagyo. Pero kung lalagyan mo ng analysis pedeng ganito sir yan.

gaano ang volume ng tao sa isang concentration sa isang lugar? ang cdo sa opinyon ko lang. Isa yan sa mga dinadaanan ng bagyo or kung hindi man bihira. Tingnan mo statistic ng mindanao noon. Sila ang pinakamalaking natitirang virgin forest or forested. Pero tingnan mo ngayon ang cdo down to davao, mapapansin mo hanggang itaas na rin ng bundok nila ang nakatanim is crop, niyugan na manipis at patlang ng tinamnan ng mahogany or jemilina tree. they are situated sa tabi ng malaking bundok, river at sa labas naman ay dagat, city, kaya sa isang area isang sakuna lang marami talaga ang pwedeng mamatay.

Dito rin samin kapag may tumama uling malakas at maraming ulan na bagyo, pwedeng marami na ang mamatay. Kasi ang concentration ng tao sa isang lugar ay marami na. Parte ng ilog ginawa ng subdivision. Maraming dating swamp area ang ginawa na ring subdivision, marami na rin dating niyugan at mga kabundukan ang nakakalbo at tinitirhan ng tao. At meron na rin daluyan ng tubig ang nasarhan na nagsasanhi ng palagiang baha sa amin. Minsan nga dalawang todong ulan lang dito samin baha na samantalang dati naman namin hindi ito nararanasan.

Pero hanggang ngawa lang yata sa media nakarating yung panawagan na tingnan ang solusyon. Ngayon baon na naman sa limot o sinasamantala lang ng mga opurtunista. Hay tao talaga hanggat nasa comfort zone parang walang pakialam. Pero capag nandyan na ang sacuna dun na magtulungan o magturuan ng sisi. Pero hanggang doon lang naman.

[iyo karpo]

if global warming is not fake...what must be done?

if there was proper mapping of calamity areas and early warning, fatalities would not have exceeded 400.

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Kaming mga sanay sa bagyo nagtaka sa lugar na napuntahan namin na bihirang bagyuhin kasi nagtatanong sila what it feels like during typhoon. Eh sanay kami, sabi namin be ready and prepared, secure a clean water for 1 week at pagkain at dry clothes extra batteries and a simple transistored radio. And flashlight then wait during typhoon.

Siguro bihira lang silang makaencounter ng ganun kaya mataas ang fatalities nila.

[iyo karpo]

Kaming mga sanay sa bagyo nagtaka sa lugar na napuntahan namin na bihirang bagyuhin kasi nagtatanong sila what it feels like during typhoon. Eh sanay kami, sabi namin be ready and prepared, secure a clean water for 1 week at pagkain at dry clothes extra batteries and a simple transistored radio. And flashlight then wait during typhoon.

Siguro bihira lang silang makaencounter ng ganun kaya mataas ang fatalities nila.

i agree...bihira ang typhoon sa Mindanao, pero ngayon na di na fake ang global warming

typhoon is a now reality in Mindanao.

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Hindi naman siguro sir kasi upper at lower part ng mindanao ay binibisita ng bagyo hindi nga lang madirect hit.

Nung napunta ako sa cdo nakita ko na ang sinaryong malala. Cung sacaling tamaan ang cdo ng bagyo. Baha ang unang calaban nila cung sacali. And some part of mindanao near sea especially cdo part at digos city.

[iyo karpo]

Hindi naman siguro sir kasi upper at lower part ng mindanao ay binibisita ng bagyo hindi nga lang madirect hit.

Nung napunta ako sa cdo nakita ko na ang sinaryong malala. Cung sacaling tamaan ang cdo ng bagyo. Baha ang unang calaban nila cung sacali. And some part of mindanao near sea especially cdo part at digos city.

kaya pala kailangan ang calamity mapping sa mindanao para malaman ang hazardous locations.

[robbietan]

stronger typhoons killing more people cannot be fake.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cagayan-de-oro/local-news/2011/12/17/sendong-leaves-440-dead-196368

I am unable to find the link that says the scenario in cdo and in iligan has been foretold as far back as 10 years ago. Te scenario was a lot of rain on a denuded mountain flowing onto the 2 cities serving as catch basins. with high tide thrown in, the outcome is the floods that the two cities are experiencing now.

"stronger typhoons" are not the actual cause of deaths but rather the heavy rains that went with sendong. even without strong winds (that qualifies a typhoon), heavy rains would provide the same disastrous results.  too bad there are no doppler radars in mindanao, the amount of rain might have been established earlier.

[robbietan]

if global warming is not fake...what must be done?

if there was proper mapping of calamity areas and early warning, fatalities would not have exceeded 400.

if global warming is real, why is there no one voicing out on the "root cause" - a huge human population?

no surprise there, the head of greenpiss here in the philippines is a philosophy grad. go figure

[robbietan]

i agree...bihira ang typhoon sa Mindanao, pero ngayon na di na fake ang global warming

typhoon is a now reality in Mindanao.

I was in mindanao from 1996 to 1999 in General Santos city. there were few typhoons but there was never a lack of rain.

however, like in quezon province, there is unabated logging in the mountains. the loggers use the rivers to transport their logs to the sea. looking at some of the pictures from the disaster areas, one would see huge cut logs going down the bloated rivers

[robbietan]

so why are there heavier rains in 2011?

La nina is the correct term - not global warming. the hot 2010 year was caused by El nino, not "global warming" and the subsequent rainy 2011 year is due to la nina

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Ni%C3%B1a

However, an El Niño returned in May–June 2009 and lasted until April 2010. The effects of El Niño in 2009 were already being seen in the fall of 2009 as the remnants of Tropical Storm Ida strengthened into a powerful coastal storm.

A new La Niña episode developed quite quickly in the eastern and central tropical Pacific in mid-2010,and lasted until early 2011.It intensified again in the mid-2011 and is predicted to last at least until early 2012. This La Niña, combined with record-high ocean temperatures in the north-eastern Indian Ocean, has been a large factor in the 2010–2011 Queensland floods, and the quartet of recent heavy snowstorms in North America starting with the December 2010 North American blizzard. The same La Nina event is also a likely cause of a series of tornadoes of above-average severity that struck the Midwestern and Northwestern United States in the spring of 2011, and is currently a major factor in the drought conditions persisting in the South Central states including Texas, Oklahoma and Arkansas.