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Re: 60 Watts amplifier
« Reply #160 on: March 18, 2012, 10:28:20 PM »
TTH, as i said i am willing to learn, thanks for the enlightening post......what gets my goat is when someone critizes my post when it is clear he has no clue....

as far as dc stability is concerned, the emitter resistors of Q1 and Q2 are supposed to provide dc compensation with temperature such that any tendency of the the collector current to rise with temperature results in higher voltage at the emitter resistors so that Vbe tends to get lowered and thus checking the rise of collector current, yes i have overlooked the effect of the 2.2k as i was thinking that the emitter resistors should have been sufficient.....the best way to find out is to breadboard the circuit...

perhaps skyjam can provide us with operating points of the trannies.....

@skyjam, can you post the voltage readings for base, colletor and emitters of each trannies in the preamp section?

my rule of thumb looking at transistor circuits is that hFE's of modern small signal transistors are often quite high so that they can often be ignored....analysis proceeds from here...

the goal of design is to come up with circuits that that are independent of hFE basically for as long as hFE is >>10...

the universal equation for gain has always been gm x Rl, transconductance x load resistance and is applicable to all devices be they tubes, or transistors....

this preamp stage has very high open loop gain, while closed loop gain is low....


TTH, you know this is a good mental exercise for me as i am forced to re-learn, +1 for you....

Tony Thanks for the point.

You are right that generally, the degenerative effect of the emitter resistors (causing Vbe to drop with temp rise) is usually enough to stabilized the circuit. But in this circuit, the emitter resistor of Q2 is part of the DC negative feedback loop of Q1. Since Q1 is driving Q2, Q1 dominates the operation of Q2 including the use of the emitter resistor of Q2. But the collector of Q2 is outside the DC negative feedback loop of Q1 so it can not rely on Q1 for stability. Thus the need for a separate bias stabilization loop for Q2 so that its nominal collector voltage (Q point) stays within the desired range.

Correction for typo error in my previous post: - "SQRT" was missing
Corrected: To deliver 60w into 8 ohms the output of the power amp must be able to put out SQRT(60/8) = 2.738Arms with a voltage output of approx. 22Vrms.

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Re: 60 Watts amplifier
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Re: 60 Watts amplifier
« Reply #161 on: April 07, 2012, 11:05:30 PM »
mukhang tahimik na...pwede nang tumambay

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Re: 60 Watts amplifier
« Reply #162 on: April 10, 2012, 03:01:12 AM »
oo nga  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 60 Watts amplifier
« Reply #163 on: April 11, 2012, 05:12:53 PM »
skyjam is avery prolific diy'er, kaya nga todo supporta ako sa kanya....idol ko yan.... ;D

tama! grabe mo sis sky cguro nangongolekta ka ng mga amp circuit? btw skyjam, ano ang gamit mo na software for pcb layouting?

btw, salamat sa mga audio masters natin dito. salamat sa suporta.
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Re: 60 Watts amplifier
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Re: 60 Watts amplifier
« Reply #164 on: April 11, 2012, 09:02:59 PM »
PCB express lang sis gamit ko
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Re: 60 Watts amplifier
« Reply #165 on: April 11, 2012, 09:39:19 PM »
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yan din gamit ko sis :)

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