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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #140 on: April 20, 2012, 12:01:14 PM »
salamat sir tony..... +1

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #141 on: April 20, 2012, 09:18:49 PM »
Thanks sir Tony!
+1 po. :)

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #142 on: April 20, 2012, 10:45:44 PM »
thanks sir tony! +1 :)

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #143 on: May 17, 2012, 04:04:14 PM »
calling master T, may update na dito? :)

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #144 on: May 25, 2012, 04:57:59 PM »
calling master T, may update na dito? :)

i just realised that i do not have 2sc5200/2sa1943 in my parts bin, so now i am changing to MJ21193/MJ21194 to3 metal can trannies....

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #144 on: May 25, 2012, 04:57:59 PM »

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #145 on: May 25, 2012, 07:08:35 PM »
mas better master T ang heat dissipation :)

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #146 on: May 25, 2012, 07:21:51 PM »
master tony anong simulation gamit mo

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #147 on: May 26, 2012, 01:18:29 AM »
^hindi ata mahilig sa simulation si sir tony, based on knowledge and owned schematic drawing nya :)

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #148 on: May 26, 2012, 05:50:18 AM »
mas better master T ang heat dissipation :)

and you need about half the number, so that 32 devices can be reduced to 16...

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #149 on: May 26, 2012, 05:57:18 AM »
master tony anong simulation gamit mo

no simulation, just plain old longhand analysis....

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #150 on: July 15, 2012, 09:02:53 PM »
ngayon ko lang nakita to.. pasub muna..

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #151 on: July 16, 2012, 06:49:53 AM »
i have been very busy with tubes lately, but let us see, i hope we can update this thread this week......

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #152 on: July 16, 2012, 07:05:12 AM »
wow!!!!!

interesting!!+1


sa una parang dudugo ang ulo mo pero as it goes gaganahan ka na......

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #153 on: July 16, 2012, 07:07:02 AM »
thanks, the main aim of the thread is to educate.....the analysis presented is applicable to all other ss classAB amps...

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #154 on: July 16, 2012, 07:16:38 AM »
sir tony,pag inassemble mo ang amp na to gaano kaya kalaki chassis nito at estimated amount?

true RMS power output amp na yan?

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #155 on: July 16, 2012, 07:31:53 AM »
sir tony,pag inassemble mo ang amp na to gaano kaya kalaki chassis nito at estimated amount?

true RMS power output amp na yan?

no idea as to cost, i have all the parts with me, ang wala lang ako, time......

true RMS? bakit meron bang false? ;D the amp i am designing will pass the FTC requirements......

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #156 on: July 16, 2012, 08:00:03 AM »

abangan ko yan...

morning!!!!!

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #157 on: July 16, 2012, 09:42:47 AM »
exciting :D
I am a DBA.

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #158 on: July 16, 2012, 11:47:29 AM »
abang mode...
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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
« Reply #159 on: July 21, 2012, 03:11:46 AM »
to summarize:

2SC5200/2SA1943 ------ 16 pairs

MJL21193/MJL21194 ----- 11 pairs

MJ21193/MJ21194 -------  8 pairs

TIP35C/TIP36C ----------  22 pairs

notice that up to this point i have not mentioned about the device dissipation Pd max, i have thus far tackled, Vceo and Ic....
The reason we do not use this spec as a figure of merit as it has not much use to us in designing amps....

looking at 2SC5200, at dc operation and if case is held to a temp of 25*C it can dissipate 150 watts, so that if heatsinking is such that case temperature reaches 50*C it can still dissipate 75 watts......but we do not want to operate our trannies this way, we want to have it to operate at much lower temperature as heat is the number one killer of solid state devices....

the MJL21193/94 otoh while rated at 200watts at 25*C case temp has a soa of 150watts at 25*C....
 
the TIP35C/36C is rated at 125 watts  at 25*C case temp has only 50watts soa at case temp of 25*C....

SOA were taken at dc curves, 50 volts, except for the MJL21193/94 which has only a 1sec curve provided....


how about Sanken 2SA2922/2SA1216?mga ilang pairs ang kakailanganin dito?mas maganda itong amp na to kung gagawa ka ng speaker na built-in amplifier(active speaker)  to avoid losses from speaker wire.

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Re: 500 watts into 1ohm SS amplifier design
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