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Insulation Foam Installation
« on: April 20, 2012, 12:28:32 PM »
Guys ask ko lang kung anu ang proper installation nito?

gusto ko kasi tapalan ng insulation foam yung kisame namin (sa loob ha) san ba dapat naka harap yung foil? sa hot side or cooler side?


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Insulation Foam Installation
« on: April 20, 2012, 12:28:32 PM »

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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2012, 12:41:43 PM »
Sa mga nakita ko, yung reflective side ang makikita mo.
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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2012, 12:43:33 PM »
ung foil ang nakikita ko palage eh ;D

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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2012, 12:44:21 PM »
Ako rin. Ibig sabihin, sa cooler side.
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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2012, 12:46:48 PM »
sa pagkaintindi ko naman yung foil nag reflect ng heat...

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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2012, 12:51:02 PM »
Wala ka naman irereflect na heat sa kisame. Pwera kung sa ibabaw ng bubong mo ilalagay.


Parang stopper gamit nung foam or heat absorber, tapos yung foil ang mismong insulating material between inside ang outside part.
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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2012, 12:59:25 PM »
^^^ meron...kasi yung kisame ko is only about 6" sa roofing..:(

kaya mainit pa rin yung kisame...




http://www.heatshieldradiantbarrier.com/physics_of_foil.htm

read the radiation part..


+1 dito sis martin....;D

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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2012, 01:04:12 PM »
My opinion is insulation lang not reflecting heat. Ang alam kung design nyan ay mabawasan yung grabeng heat not totally eliminate it. Kung gusto pa mabawasan second layer siguro. Pero also kapag insulated ka na totally medyo iinit din yan.
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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2012, 01:08:46 PM »
May aircon ako...:P

kaya gusto ko ibaba yung init ng kisame kasi sayang ang energy na needed to cool it down...

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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2012, 01:15:05 PM »
Dun sa tinambayan namin reflected side ang nasa labas bale yung foam part nasa side ng bubong sa loob ng kisame. Ayun pinapawisan na lang kami. Pero nakakapagtrabaho na kami sa loob.


Same sa pipeline ng planta yung foil part ang nasa labas at nasa loob yung foam wherein yung heat source dumadaan sa pipeline. At saka parang balot na rin yung foil part na maganda.
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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2012, 01:17:07 PM »
Sa gym din namin dito, yung foil part ang nakikita sa kisame.
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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2012, 01:17:27 PM »
My opinion is insulation lang not reflecting heat. Ang alam kung design nyan ay mabawasan yung grabeng heat not totally eliminate it. Kung gusto pa mabawasan second layer siguro. Pero also kapag insulated ka na totally medyo iinit din yan.

HEAT aka IR. sir. kung makikita mo yung nag rerework nang gpu at reball. aluminum tape ang ginagamit pang reflect sa parts (capacitor, resisitors, mosfets to-220, plastic connectors) that's one example sir.

same din sa auto aircon. dalawang mundo ang aircon at engine bay. dun pa lang makikita na yung "weird" side nang heat sheilding.

kung nanunuood ka sir nang discovery channel ang heat shield is nasa labas talaga.


at kahit thermos... kailangan mirrored para mag bounce lang sa loob nang thermos ang IR.


iba ang insulation(absorption) sa reflectance. kaya yung sinasabi ni kasamiko na foam na may shield is double acting. mas ok na mag reflect nang IR. kesa yung hangin ang mag absorb nang init. may foam sya acts as an air buffer.


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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2012, 01:20:13 PM »
and in the end. "basta maikabit" ok na.

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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2012, 01:26:27 PM »
no direct contact sa roof ang insulation... may gap na 2 inches to let the heat scape.

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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2012, 01:31:37 PM »
Tested ko na ito before. yung door namin is facing the afternoon sunlight. If mga 3pm di mo mahahawakan yung other side ng door dahil mainit nga..nilagyan ko sa labas nitong insulation foam at never na uminit sa loob...

Marahil magtatanung kayo bakit pa ako nag post kung tested ko na? Well kadalasan kasi yun din nakikita ko, yung foil sa loob..sa cool side, naisip ko baka mali yung ginawa ko? ;D



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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2012, 01:38:25 PM »
impakta ka talaga.  ;D

meron pa yan ibang dahilan. Foil also acts as a support sa foam(sa kisame). Also yung iba ginagawa na ngang reflector ng ilaw. Madali linisin lalo na kung pupunasan mo. Kesa yung foam ang nakalabas.
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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2012, 02:23:06 PM »
sis gamit ka na lang nung insulation foam na doube sided...

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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2012, 02:30:35 PM »
impakta ka talaga.  ;D

meron pa yan ibang dahilan. Foil also acts as a support sa foam(sa kisame). Also yung iba ginagawa na ngang reflector ng ilaw. Madali linisin lalo na kung pupunasan mo. Kesa yung foam ang nakalabas.

Then they are NOT using it for insulation?


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Re: Insulation Foam Installation
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2012, 02:30:54 PM »
sis gamit ka na lang nung insulation foam na doube sided...
hangkorni... Grrr mas masaya yung single sided!

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