Murang Aircon sa SM

[Pinoy_Tech]

Mga sir may naka try na ba sa inyo nung nabibiling AC sa SM na nasa 6K yata ang price. Small lang sya at mukhang very light weight ang dating at low power consumption din. Sayang di ko lang naisulat ang lahat ng specs. Pa share naman ng opinion nyo kung may nakasubok na, tnx. 

[robbietan]

looking at the sm appliance website, there is no aircon on sale for less than the 8.8k kolin 0.6HP window type aircon

maybe you saw an air cooler / evaporator?

[bravokilo]

Well. PT. for that price I will buy one but know the limitation. I don't think it will conk out on you in 3 years...pero iba pa rin yung better brand. Pero, pwede na rins.... put it in a small room. If you have abig room, lagyan mo ng curtain partition aound your bed with the AC on the wall. Look at he car, malamig with a small AC dahil compact ang area. You can get a Japanese aircon, about P4k with transformer sa Pier dun sa likod ang manila hotel, sun banda sa rotanda going to mla cathedral. Left turn ka dun. marami. quality ang parts. iab lang style, parans kalahating rice dispenser and they are installed at ground level. pwede rin sa window level. i am in BF Pque, i have two at home.

BK 0922 281 0680

[Asarnako]

Aircooler nga nakita nya w/ that price!

Taga BF P'que din kaw Sis Bravokilo? Anong Phase?

[kmb36td]

nakakalamig ba ang aircooler kung nakatutok sayo... 2 story kasi bahay namin.. sa 2nd floor sobrang mainit sa tanghali di ko makatiis.. todo na electricfan pero mainit parin,, kasi mainit ang singaw ng efan...
balak ko kasi bumili ng aircooler kung yug air nya di mainit ang singaw tulad ng efan pag mainit ang panahon...

[Asarnako]

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yung aircooler ay efan din na nilagyan ng ice at water, ice cold water dripping from the suction area of the fan and blows it to you!... yun lang, its better u get a block of ice and put it in frnt of ur efan .. for sure lameg lang din nyan!

[rdpzycho]

dapat meron ding exhaust or intake sir kung fan lang talaga ang gagamitin, mainit kasi talaga ang buga kung pinapaikot lang 'yung hangin, napainit pa lalo ng katawan ng tao.

'yung air cooler, medyo nakakalamig naman siya, kaya lang 'di siya advisable sa mga sensitive ang ilong. madali kasing madala nung moisture 'yung mga bacteria. pagtagal din at wala ng lamig, mas madaling iinit 'yung kwarto dahil maalinsangan na (humid).

[insomartin]

bumili sisters ko nang 7k air con dito sa abenson. it turns out kapag tanhaling tapat and sikat yung araw sa room. kahit sagad yung thermostat. hirap yung air con. ( di nag OOff yung compressor) pero kapag gabi. ok sya.

then again... it's better lang na mas malaki ang capacity nang air con sa room. pero "just enough".

[01110011]

gree siguro yan

[insomartin]

gree siguro yan

  expert!    gree nga

unang encounter ko parang... cold water dispenser lang. 

[Pinoy_Tech]

looking at the sm appliance website, there is no aircon on sale for less than the 8.8k kolin 0.6HP window type aircon

maybe you saw an air cooler / evaporator?

AC talaga sya talaga bro may compressor. Pumunta uli ako kanina sa SM SouthMall. Ang model ay MWF-05CM1, cooling capacity ay 5500btu/hr, 17kg, 650W/220V, price P6,499.00. , dimension maliit di lalampas sa H=1&1/4 x L=1&1/2 sa dangkal ko.

[Pinoy_Tech]

Well. PT. for that price I will buy one but know the limitation. I don't think it will conk out on you in 3 years...pero iba pa rin yung better brand. Pero, pwede na rins.... put it in a small room. If you have abig room, lagyan mo ng curtain partition aound your bed with the AC on the wall. Look at he car, malamig with a small AC dahil compact ang area. You can get a Japanese aircon, about P4k with transformer sa Pier dun sa likod ang manila hotel, sun banda sa rotanda going to mla cathedral. Left turn ka dun. marami. quality ang parts. iab lang style, parans kalahating rice dispenser and they are installed at ground level. pwede rin sa window level. i am in BF Pque, i have two at home.

BK 0922 281 0680

Sir Bk, tnx for advice , ganun din advice ng utol ko kaso sya mismo 2x bumalik dun to change the unit kc merong konting problema at yung huling naibigay ay dinirekta na lang yata ang temp control at kung mangyari din sa kin yun e wala na 'kong time para ibalik. Meron sana akong unit dito now 1.5hp, medyo malaki, galing mideast pero sure talo ako sa kuryente plus ipapabutas ko pa pader.

[Pinoy_Tech]

dapat meron ding exhaust or intake sir kung fan lang talaga ang gagamitin, mainit kasi talaga ang buga kung pinapaikot lang 'yung hangin, napainit pa lalo ng katawan ng tao.

'yung air cooler, medyo nakakalamig naman siya, kaya lang 'di siya advisable sa mga sensitive ang ilong. madali kasing madala nung moisture 'yung mga bacteria. pagtagal din at wala ng lamig, mas madaling iinit 'yung kwarto dahil maalinsangan na (humid).

Tama ka dyan sir kaya di ako prefer sa mga aircooler, at medyo lumalamig nga lang yan pag nilagyan ng ice o yung tubig na galing sa ref. Yung iba di pa alam ang humid kung pano, sa mideast grabe pag nagka humid halos di ka makahinga, pati kalsada halos mag wet. Dito sa Pinas ginagawa yan sa production ng balut.

[Pinoy_Tech]

bumili sisters ko nang 7k air con dito sa abenson. it turns out kapag tanhaling tapat and sikat yung araw sa room. kahit sagad yung thermostat. hirap yung air con. ( di nag OOff yung compressor) pero kapag gabi. ok sya.

then again... it's better lang na mas malaki ang capacity nang air con sa room. pero "just enough".

Tnx for the sharing. I agree sa maliit na unit di mag-off ang AC sa big size room pag sobrang init. I have about 3.5 x 5mtr rm, grabe init kasi kahit bubong ko ay concrete din.

[robbietan]

Some aircon use tips:

Airconditioner

When buying a new air conditioner, look for the Energy Guide (yellow label) attached to the unit and check the Energy Efficiency Ratio (EER). As a general rule for units with the same cooling capacity, a higher EER means a more efficient unit and a lower operating cost. (IMHO get one that has an EER of at least 10.0)

Choosing the right size of air conditioning unit for your room size can help you save on electricity. Over-sized (and under sized) air conditioners are not energy efficient. With the right unit size, your air conditioner will operate properly for peak efficiency and would require low maintenance. Follow the steps below and know the right size of air conditioner for your room:

Determine the floor area (in square meters) of the room or space you want to install an air conditioner in. For example, the floor area of a room with a length of 5 meters and a width of 4 meters is 20 square meters.

Use the formula below to estimate the required cooling capacity.

Cooling capacity = size of the room (m2) x 500 kJ/hr – m2 (1 kjoule = 0.9478 BTU)

Substitute the computed floor area as the size of the room and then multiply this value by the constant 500kJ/hr – m2. The resulting value is the estimated cooling capacity of the air conditioner that you need to install.

Look for a unit with matching cooling capacity as shown on the Energy Guide. If the matching cooling capacity is not available, choose the one with the next higher value.

Get the highest Energy Efficiency Ratio (EER) rating that your budget can afford. Remember that the higher the EER, the more savings you get from operating the unit.

Install the aircon in a cool area. A unit operating in the shade uses 10 percent less electricity than the same unit operating in direct sunlight. Plant trees or construct coverings to provide shade for your aircon but be sure not to block the airflow.

Check the insulation of your room. Spaces from the windows, doors and the airconditioner installation point may cause cold air to leak or heat to enter the room, making the unit work harder to provide the needed cooling.

Don’t place lamps, television and other items, which can be a source of heat near your unit. The thermostat senses the heat given off by these items, causing your unit to run longer than necessary.

Support your aircon’s cooling performance by draping windows with curtains, blinds and other similar accessories to block the sun’s rays. Consider also using an interior fan in conjunction with your airconditioner to help spread cool air more effectively without greatly increasing electricity consumption.

Make sure that the thermostat is functioning correctly. Set your thermostat at the highest comfortable temperature as possible. A comfortable room temperature setting is about 24 degrees Celsius. (24 degrees is highly recommended as a "comfortable temperature". setting the thermostat one degree below 24 means 6% to 8% more power consumption) Setting your thermostat at a colder setting than normal when turning your unit on will not help cool your room any faster. Rather, it could result in excessive cooling and, therefore, unnecessary expense.

Set the fan speed on high, except on very humid days. When humidity is high, set the fan speed on low for more comfort. The low speed on humid days will cool your room better and will help remove moisture from the air because of slower air movement through the cooling equipment.

Check the filter once a month by holding it up against the light. If you can’t see through it, it’s time to clean or replace the filter.

Straighten any bent fins. Straightening the fins increases the efficiency of the air flow through the coils and adds to the overall cooling effect produced by the air conditioner.

Regularly clean the condenser of your unit to efficiently expel the heat load of your airconditioned room.

[bravokilo]

Noy-Pi, now that you mentioned that you have a 1.5hp, may payo ako ddyan sa malaing AC. You don't spend on the size of the airtcon but on the size of the room you wan to cool. Let's you have a 1HP horse and a 2HP. same day, same time, magkatabi yung 2 rooms. On mo parejo yung aircons nila. In less time, the 2HP is already cycling between ON and OFF since the temp you want have been reached. Yung 1 HP will still be panting. Now, say both have reach the temp you had set. The 2HP will come on at half the time to maintain the temp vs the 1 HP.

The solution is to "smallize" your room as we used to joke. If you build a room just fitting your bed, the 1/2HP can freeze you at night. You do not have builda new room. Just enclose your bed with heavy curtains. Ayun, para ka lang si Cleopatra sleeping in a heavy kulambo.

About the japanese aircon sa pier, yep, totoong aircon sila at hinde coolers. Stay away from coolers. Ma pneumonia ka sa high humidity it creates.

Agree, the sophisticated controls of japanese ac with Nihonggo characters we don't understand,
can be a headache. isa pa 100 V sila. If there is space bolt on a permanent transformer sa loob. Kung no space change the plugs to round plugs to prevent mistakes. Am advising a friend right now to disconnect the compressor, the fan motor from the control panel. Wire it like the one in SM,probably china made "Gree". buy a mechanical thremostat from an AC store (Rotary, MR2 in Cubao, Danbros in Zapote), Ayun no frills , no hassles. You have to buy the rotary sw lang, slow fan, hi fan, low AC, high AC. That's all.

The aircon is a very simple device.


BK

[Pinoy_Tech]

Just enclose your bed with heavy curtains.
BK

Sir BK, ganito yung nasa isip ko sa ngayon kasi ganito yung setup namin sa Bataan
at ok naman kahit small window AC lang yung naka install, mag ON/OFF ang compressor
kahit big size room.

Tnx sa lahat ng mga nag tips talaga pati kay sis Robbie. Actually, marami na rin akong
naranasan sa AC kasi I'm working in mid-east country for long-long years at very common
dun ang aircon.