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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2012, 02:18:50 PM »
+1 kas!

bat 15 passes sis? kailangan pa bang painitin yong pcb copper?
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2012, 02:18:50 PM »

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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2012, 03:07:29 PM »
^ dapat mainit talaga yung laminator...yung READY LED nya dapat nakailaw na..

below 15 passes kasi unpredictable yung result...depende sa pcb materials na ginamit mo..
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2012, 03:07:29 PM »

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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2012, 03:09:31 PM »
Quote from: danny on May 25, 2012, 12:25:06 AM
aba kahit pentel pen lang ok pa din
mas mabilis naman hahaha
wag ka lang manginginig sir efren
bawal pasmado nyahahaha  ;D ;D ;D
talagang mabilis sa pentel pen sir danny, pero ang pulso ko hindi na kagaya ng ako ay nasa beinte anyos palang, malaki na ang pagbabago....  ;)
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2012, 03:09:31 PM »

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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2012, 03:14:23 PM »
nasa kanya kanyang kasanayan lang yan kasi...sakin kahit pag bend ng component leads really matter...even the orientation ng mga pyesa like resistors...metikuloso talaga..
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2012, 03:14:23 PM »

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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2012, 03:23:12 PM »
What if isalang muna sa oven toaster para ma pre heat yung board.
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2012, 03:23:12 PM »

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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2012, 03:49:05 PM »
mahirap na ilagay yung paper if mainit..kasi dikit kaagad yun..
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2012, 07:46:16 AM »
dapat pala preheat the pcb then presss...ganon ba ito sis kas?
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2012, 07:54:55 AM »
Tanong ko lang sis kas,  kapag napadaanan na ng pcb yung laminator, pwede pa rin ba ito gamitin sa paglaminate ng ordinary paper, pictures or ids?

Meron din ako laminator, kaya lang gamit ko lang talaga paglaminate ng mga pictures (para di mag-fade yung kulay after so many years).

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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2012, 08:03:43 AM »
Quote from: piona on May 28, 2012, 07:46:16 AM
dapat pala preheat the pcb then presss...ganon ba ito sis kas?

Mahirap pag preheat pa..kasi pag mainit na yung pcb instantly kumakapit yung paper..which wont allow you to adjust..sakin yung laminator lang preheat ko..


Quote from: alyas on May 28, 2012, 07:54:55 AM
Tanong ko lang sis kas,  kapag napadaanan na ng pcb yung laminator, pwede pa rin ba ito gamitin sa paglaminate ng ordinary paper, pictures or ids?

Meron din ako laminator, kaya lang gamit ko lang talaga paglaminate ng mga pictures (para di mag-fade yung kulay after so many years).




Pwede..wala naman akong binago electrically or physically..;D

pero I'm planning to mod this laminator..medyo increase ko yung init nya..
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2012, 08:12:45 AM »
spring loaded ang laminator. yong sa akin pinalitan ko yong thermal switch
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2012, 09:32:59 AM »
de-bur lang mga edge ng pcb para di masira ang roller at ng maganda pa din gamitin sa sa PVC
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2012, 09:39:49 AM »
+1....these are the kinds of posting we need.....good job kaz.....
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2012, 02:04:31 PM »
Quote from: Kasamiko on May 28, 2012, 08:03:43 AM
Mahirap pag preheat pa..kasi pag mainit na yung pcb instantly kumakapit yung paper..which wont allow you to adjust..sakin yung laminator lang preheat ko..



so pwede lagay o taped muna yong pattern sa pcb tapos preheat silang dalawa then preesss....ganito ba ito sis kaz?
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2012, 04:00:34 PM »
no need preheat.. direct na sa laminator kasama ang patern. kaya mga 15 passes para kumapit sa copper ang toner (pressure ng roller is not the same in plantsa method)
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2012, 04:50:29 PM »
di pala pwede gamitin yung accetate para dun sa pattern..ayaw kumapit nung toner sa pcb kahit ilang passes at naka max temp. na yung laminating machine



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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2012, 08:39:38 AM »
Quote from: Engr. Dacuycoy on May 28, 2012, 04:00:34 PM
no need preheat.. direct na sa laminator kasama ang patern. kaya mga 15 passes para kumapit sa copper ang toner (pressure ng roller is not the same in plantsa method)

slowingdown the motor feeder baka 5 passes nalang ;D
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2012, 09:17:56 AM »
Quote from: Engr. Dacuycoy on May 28, 2012, 08:12:45 AM
spring loaded ang laminator. yong sa akin pinalitan ko yong thermal switch

Sakin yung sensor nya isang maliit na signla diode (looks like 1N4148) nilagay malapit sa lower roller..cguro kung ilayo ko ng konti pwede ko taasan yung temp...;D


Quote from: piona on May 28, 2012, 02:04:31 PM
so pwede lagay o taped muna yong pattern sa pcb tapos preheat silang dalawa then preesss....ganito ba ito sis kaz?

pwede..ito ginagawa ko with plantsa before..align the pattern dapat meron extra space both paper and pcb..after ma align ng maayos clip ko yung one side ng patter sa pcb then patungan ng mainit na plantsa yung copper side lng..mga 10 seconds lng..after preheat saka ko na ilalagay yung pattern..



Quote from: piona on May 29, 2012, 08:39:38 AM
slowingdown the motor feeder baka 5 passes nalang ;D

yan din balak ko..pwede cguro lagyan ng motor speed controller to..;D


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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2012, 11:00:58 AM »
Quote from: Kasamiko on May 29, 2012, 09:17:56 AM

yan din balak ko..pwede cguro lagyan ng motor speed controller to..;D


eh di halos ganon din pag binagalan.. hahaba time  ;D pag fr4 nga gamit ko 20 to 25 passes  ;D

observe nyo lang to
1. kailangang malinis pa sa labada sa tide ang copper
  a> use scrabbing material of your choice (i use very fine emery paper, it will create microscopic lines in the copper para kapitan ng toner)
  b> sabunin maigi hanggang kapit na kapit na ang tubig sa copper

2. use alcohol for final cleansing




3. never ever touch the cooper side :o
4. ito matindi...>>>>...>>> practice lang yan di ba kaz ;D

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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2012, 12:17:38 PM »
^ I concur!

the secret is..dapat yung water don't form a droplets...dapat kumapit yung water..;D
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Re: PCB Toner Transfer Using CD/DVD Label & Laminator
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2012, 01:20:11 PM »
i used "Ajax" powder cleansers to scrub the copper till it becomes red-like, rinse well in running water and heat in an lpg gas stove to dry....
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