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Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« on: June 21, 2012, 03:38:43 PM »
Gud day to all masters ask  ko lng po kung saan po ako mag uumpisa para gawin ang problem na ito,may B+ naman, ang problema nga lang po ay tataas bababa ang reading ko 90vdc tapos bababa hangang 70vdc tapus aakyat ulit ng 90vdc, wala naman syang picture na makikita sa screen, ayus naman ang HOT nya na check ko na po iyon, pa help po mga masters.

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Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« on: June 21, 2012, 03:38:43 PM »

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2012, 11:25:40 PM »
Sis, hang mo muna B+ mo bago sukatan ng boltahe.... pag ganun parin, check mo ecap sa B+.
Pag good ecap, malamang sa primary ang trouble. Pag di na tumaas baba o stable na ang voltage
pag naka hang B+ malamang may shorted sa output ng flyback lalo na sa vertical section or flyback mismo ang shorted. 
Check mo na rin yung IC na nagku control sa photo coupler, kung meron 2(SE 1##).
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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2012, 11:25:40 PM »

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2012, 02:50:40 PM »
tnx sa reply master fatech, nag normal ang b+ ng i hang ko ito, ng ibalik ko ulit nabagsak talaga ang voltahe hangang 50vdc,pano po ba ang pag check ng fbt kung sya na nga ang sira??

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2012, 02:50:40 PM »

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2012, 03:03:12 PM »


pakilinawan lng ng maigi... anu ang inihang ?  FBT ? Hot ? or other load like amp sect, jungle sect  & etc...

kng saan  tumino ang B+ na tinanggal ang load... doon ka tumuon ts..
paki post ng model at chassis nito ?
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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2012, 04:20:26 PM »

pakilinawan lng ng maigi... anu ang inihang ?  FBT ? Hot ? or other load like amp sect, jungle sect  & etc...

kng saan  tumino ang B+ na tinanggal ang load... doon ka tumuon ts..
paki post ng model at chassis nito ?
master ultra!!! ung collector ng Hot ang hinang ko at nag normal ang b+ 105vdc, ito po pala ang model at chassis # HD-8891-VER 01, P2719C.

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2012, 04:20:26 PM »

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2012, 12:15:11 PM »
subs.

na-check ecaps near FBT?
What makes you think, we owe you an answer? Ask and you shall receive... but all in the proper time.

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2012, 11:01:37 AM »


china board ata ito.. di ko ako familiar sa modelo ;D

@TS try mu nlng munang i check ang secondary filter ecaps mu, baka pumapalya ka sa supply...
check mu din ang H-out kng buo pa ba ? at paki check ang resistance ng primary winding ng FBT mu
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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2012, 11:07:41 AM »
na check kuna sir un transistor sa h. out ok naman nman shorted. un wla n kc ko makitang leak ng reading sa cap. meron ako nakita resistor high resistance. pinalitan kuna ganon parin. kung try ko sir palitan un cap nya sa B+ un 160v. cra kaya un. wla nman po kaya sa flyback un.

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 11:37:25 AM »
na check kuna sir un transistor sa h. out ok naman nman shorted. un wla n kc ko makitang leak ng reading sa cap. meron ako nakita resistor high resistance. pinalitan kuna ganon parin. kung try ko sir palitan un cap nya sa B+ un 160v. cra kaya un. wla nman po kaya sa flyback un.

china board ata ito.. di ko ako familiar sa modelo ;D

@TS try mu nlng munang i check ang secondary filter ecaps mu, baka pumapalya ka sa supply...
check mu din ang H-out kng buo pa ba ? at paki check ang resistance ng primary winding ng FBT mu
master ultra ok po ang hot, secondary ecaps, di pa po me marunong mag test ng FBT, panu po ba mag test ng primary winding ng FBT?????? Pero ito po ung # ng FBT BSC26-T1010A   

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2012, 11:39:11 AM »
subs.

na-check ecaps near FBT?
master mcleod, check ko na din ung ecaps sa mga tabi ng FBT ok naman po,

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2012, 12:41:46 PM »

master ultra ok po ang hot, secondary ecaps, di pa po me marunong mag test ng FBT, panu po ba mag test ng primary winding ng FBT?????? Pero ito po ung # ng FBT BSC26-T1010A   

set sa rx1 ang ohmmeter mu... B+ pin at ground ng fbt...
kng di mu kabisado ang B+ pin ng FBT... try mung i trace ang copper clad ng pcb..
simulan mu sa secondary caps... hahapin ang + terminal ng filter ecaps at sundan ito patungo sa fbt.. kng anong pin ng fbt xa unang kumapit ay yun ang b+ pin ng FBT mu ;D
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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2012, 11:15:44 AM »
set sa rx1 ang ohmmeter mu... B+ pin at ground ng fbt...
kng di mu kabisado ang B+ pin ng FBT... try mung i trace ang copper clad ng pcb..
simulan mu sa secondary caps... hahapin ang + terminal ng filter ecaps at sundan ito patungo sa fbt.. kng anong pin ng fbt xa unang kumapit ay yun ang b+ pin ng FBT mu ;D
gud day master ultra, wala pong resistance ang b+ pin at ground pin ng FBT sa x1 ohms pag naka hang sa pcb, sira na po ba ang FBT nito???????

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2012, 11:25:38 AM »

dahil di pumalo..ibig  sabihin na ok ang fbt mu... hindi xa ang dahilan ng pagiging heavy load o nagpapabagsak sa B+ mu...

napalitan mu na ba ang H-out mu.. nabanggit mu kasi sa itaas na shorted ito ?  (B-C)
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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2012, 04:13:28 PM »
master ultra di po ako ang nag sabi na shorted ang hot, jhockwack  yata un, sumagot ng di naman sya ang ts, na test ko na rin po ang Horizontal output transistor, ok naman po,saan pa po kaya sira nito ,bakit pag kinabit ko na ang collector ng HOT eh bumamabsak ang voltahe?????

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2012, 04:18:40 PM »
additional info po pala, kapag naka kabit ang ground pin at B+ pin ng FBT , pag test ko ng probei sa meron palo at isa ay wala, parang diode po.

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2012, 04:36:42 PM »

kng  ok ang FBT, HOT... check mu nmn ang try  mung wag  ikabit ang socket ng Yoke sa board.. then power up ang unit. sempre always monitor ur B+...

pag same pa rin... sa  eeprom side naman tayo...
try mung i float ang pin 8 ng EEPROM (24Cxx)
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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2012, 05:57:18 PM »
patambay na lang nandito naman si master oltra.
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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2012, 06:41:53 PM »
FBT BSC26-T1010A   

fbt  or B+ cap leaking ang salarin nito, hula lang... ;D
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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2012, 11:17:07 AM »
kng  ok ang FBT, HOT... check mu nmn ang try  mung wag  ikabit ang socket ng Yoke sa board.. then power up ang unit. sempre always monitor ur B+...

pag same pa rin... sa  eeprom side naman tayo...
try mung i float ang pin 8 ng EEPROM (24Cxx)
gud day master ultra!!  sinubukan ko na pong alisin ang socket ng yoke sa board, ganun pa din po ang result ng B+, bagsak pa din, tapos ung sa EEPROM naman nag stable po ang B+ ng i hang ko ang pin #8 (K24C08). anu po ang next step ko po master??????

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2012, 11:23:10 AM »
additional info po pala, 105dvc po ang b+ nya pag stable , tama po ba un?????

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Re: Pensonic TV, may B+ pero walang OSD o picture
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