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Offline Johannah Aleksandria

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Drumset mics
« on: June 24, 2012, 08:08:00 AM »
Ano po bang mai-suggest nyo mga masters?
Yung may hustisya nman sa price at performance.
Meron daw M-audio na mura lang at meron nmang samson 7-set pero mahal.
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Drumset mics
« on: June 24, 2012, 08:08:00 AM »

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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 12:45:08 AM »
audio technica drum mics (MB/Dk4), at shure pg-series drum mic (PGDMK6).. yung MB/Dk4, gamit  na namin for more than 4 years siguro.   for the cymbals, we use behringer C1 mics kasi yung MB/Dk4 ay 4 piece kit lang, 3 toms + kick. 
yung PGDMK6, kabibili lang namin last summer for our 2nd system.
Ok naman ang tunog nila.


BTW, nung nagsisimula pa lang kami, ordinary mics lang ang gamit namin.. Ok din ang tunog, pangit lang tingnan ang mga mic stands..

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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 12:45:08 AM »

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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2012, 06:52:00 AM »
Mraming salamat sa reply sir.
Magkano nman po ang presyo nito sir? Kailngan ko pa ng kunting pnahon para dito at kpapalit ko pa ng cymbals.
Kung sa ordinary mics nman sir ano ang ginamit nyo dati, ok na rin ba yung R21? 7 mics ba ang gamit nyo para sa drums sir?
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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 10:22:56 AM »
Nakita ko yung PGDMK4, 14,750.00 ang price.
Yung M-audio na sinabi sa akin nasa 10-12k daw at 7-pc set.
Yung wharfdale DM 4.0, ano po ang masabi nyo rito sir?
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Re: Drumset mics
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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2012, 10:34:50 AM »
Hmmm meron na kaya sa CDRKing

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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2012, 01:23:05 AM »
Magkano nman po ang presyo nito sir? Kailngan ko pa ng kunting pnahon para dito at kpapalit ko pa ng cymbals.
Kung sa ordinary mics nman sir ano ang ginamit nyo dati, ok na rin ba yung R21? 7 mics ba ang gamit nyo para sa drums sir?

Nakita ko yung PGDMK4, 14,750.00 ang price.
Yung M-audio na sinabi sa akin nasa 10-12k daw at 7-pc set.
Yung wharfdale DM 4.0, ano po ang masabi nyo rito sir?

Yung number of drum mics na gamit namin nagdedepende sa setup.  From as low as 4 (kick, HH+snare, TOMS, OH) hanggang 8 (kick, snare, HH, HT, LT, FT, OH right, OH left).  Pwede na rin siguro R21/DM 4.0, basta gumamit ng micstand mara ma-isolate yung body ng mic sa galaw ng drumset.  Tweak na lang sa channel strip EQ. Kung may condenser mic ka for overhead sa cymbals at para sa hi-hat, then mas ok.  Kung ok naman yung result mo using R21/DM 4.0, then pagtiyagaan mo muna yan para makapag-ipon ng pambili ng Audio Technica, Shure, Senn or AKG.. This way isang bilihan lang siguradong wala ng problema sa mic.

Regarding sa M-audio  drum kit mic, wala akong makitang drumkit mic sa website ng M-Audio so most probably fake yan.  Iwasan na lang yan, dagdagan na lang para sa talagang branded na mics.

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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2012, 08:33:47 AM »
Maraming slamat sir Labgruppen, hehe. bibili ako ngayon ng mic. R21 na lang muna siguro at mic stand, next week pa yung gig nmin. Aiming for 12 mics, 5 for drums, 3 for guitar/bass, 4 for vocals. maybe will add 1 condenser mic.
Sir thanks tlaga sa payo, nasusunod sayo yung progress ng sound setup ko.
Actually hobby and part business ito, pero more on hobby lang tlaga sa ngayon. Kasama kasi ako sa banda.
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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2012, 11:59:46 AM »
Hmmm meron na kaya sa CDRKing

Di ko pa alam kung meron sir, but if meron, better avoid disappointments na lang po ako.
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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2012, 12:01:24 PM »
Sir Lab iba po ba tlaga ang nabibigay ng condenser mic para sa cymbals kumpara sa ordinary dynamic mic?
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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2012, 05:13:47 PM »
Sir Lab iba po ba tlaga ang nabibigay ng condenser mic para sa cymbals kumpara sa ordinary dynamic mic?
Oo, iba talaga.  Mas mapipick-up nung condenser yung higher overtones ng cymbals mo, lalo na kung bright yung cymbals mo.  Medyo ok lang ang dynamic mics sa cymbals pag dark sounding yung model ng cymbals mo.

Bakit mas sensitive yung condenser sa hi-frequencies kaysa sa dynamic mics?  May kinalaman ito sa bigat ng moving mass sa dalawang microphone.  Alam naman natin na habang bumibigat ang isang bagay, mas mahihirapan syang magvibrate.  Halimbawa, mas madaling alugin ang milk bottle ng bata, kaysa sa isang 2 liter na bote na puno ng tubig.  Balik sa mics.  Yung dynamic microphone, may moving coil sya attached sa diaphragm nya.  Tapos yung diaphragm nya medyo makapal para masuportahan yung coil.  Ang resulta, relatively heavy moving mass.. Sa condenser naman, yung diaphragm nya ay walang susuportahang moving coil, so pwedeng gawing napakanipis.  So yung moving mass ng condenser ay mas magaan.  Dahil sa mas magaan ang diaphragm ng condensers, mas less force ang kailangan para magvibrate ang diaphragm nito.   Resulta, mas sensitive, lalo na sa high frequencies, ang condenser microphones.

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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2012, 10:39:42 PM »
May nakita akong "LIVE" condenser mic, tig 3K, di ko alam kung peke ito.
Ano po bang mga single condenser mic ang totoo sir?
Mraming slamat po sa explanation sir.
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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2012, 12:19:35 AM »
May cheaper alternative.. Bardl BCM-6100 Condenser Telescopic Microphone
Pwede ring behringer C1, most probably less than PhP 3k ito.  Large diaphragm condenser na yang C1, so pwedeng gamitin sa pagrecord ng vocals.  Regarding Live, di pa ako nakarinig ng Live kung paano sya tumunog.

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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2012, 08:55:00 PM »
Sir Lab wala tlaga akong mhanapan ng ganyang mga model rito. Meron sila Samson pero 5.1k nman.
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Re: Drumset mics
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2012, 12:26:48 PM »
Sir Lab gumagamit po ba kayo ng compressor/limiter sa kick at bass guitar.
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