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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2008, 09:32:16 PM »
pano po ba pagtitinga nun.. may available bang youtube na video.. diba yun magdidikit dikit yung solder kasi pag nagsosolder ako dumidikit eh dun panga hilig dumidikit sa iron tip ayaw matangal.. hotair wala pa po akong hotair gun(kano po yung ganun.. may mura ba nun) hobby-bobby lang po ako....

sure po kaya yun pag bumili ako ng hot-air makapag solder rin ako ng qfn..

may mga nasalvage rin ako na soic qfn BGA etc nilagay ko lang sa apoy yung likod ng pcb tapos sabay taktak bumabagsak sya kusa yung IC at yung mga capacitor at diode pero yung mga smt na resistor nasisira.. kaso di ko man alam pano malaman kung nabuo yung mga IC... guto ko matuto mag solder ng mga QFN at yung maliliit na components kasi nasasalvage din sya sa mga sirang handheld na gadgets...

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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2008, 09:34:59 PM »
pagkalagay mo ng solder, gagamitan mo ng solder wick. ;) or 'yung iba hot air na lang din parang linilinis 'yung paligid.
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2008, 09:34:59 PM »

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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2008, 10:52:48 PM »
bubbles? Ball Grid Array? madali gawan ng PCB 'yun. pero hindi magagamit 'yung internal pins. kailangan kasi may via na sa ilalim. hehehe. madali din i-solder 'yun. meron ng solder 'yung mga paa noon.

kapag may hot air madali i-solder ang QFN. titinggaan lang 'yung pad ng konti, tapos patong 'yung IC, hot air, soldered na. hehehe.

experience ko with Presensitized hanggang TQFP, medyo magkasing-nipis ng paa 'yun. pero depende sa quality nung printout, chambahan din para maging useful 'yung na-etch.

tapos pag natanggal na yung mga solder balls pede ireball yun may nabibili nun yung para sa mga chip ng ceelphone :D tapos need ng solder paste :)
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2008, 11:02:27 PM »
talaga??!! di ko kasi maimagine... hehehe
kung walang hotair, pano isolder ang BGA?
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2008, 11:13:55 PM »
pwedeng lagyan ng solder flux na medyo marami sa ibabaw (para lang wag magka-marka ng sunog sa epoxy) tapos soldering iron. minsan gumagagana 'yan. 'yung hair dryer gumagana sa mga cold solder, hindi ko lang alam kung para sa soldering mismo kung pwede. pwede sigurong gawan ng customized adapter.
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2008, 01:37:19 AM »
@marce

hehe..  anlabo ng quality ng cam q..  mumurahin lng kasi.. hehehe...

@rdpzycho.

may nabili akong wick.. pero, hnd ata un wick e.. weak ata.. hehe.. ayaw makatanggal e. 55 ang bili q sa deeco. sayang lng...

naalala q ung solder flux.. hehe.. magkanu kaya un sa market... hehehe...

sa ojt lng ako nakagamit nun e.. hehe... sayang, andami dun. pakalat kalat lng...
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #46 on: October 15, 2008, 08:34:30 AM »
parang 100 yta ung nsa syringe sa quiapo

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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2008, 12:50:04 PM »
parang 100 yta ung nsa syringe sa quiapo

:o ang mahal naman nya 55 lang dito ang alam ko sa quiapo lang din namimili yung nagtitinda dito hmmmmm....... baka wholesale? :D
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2008, 01:00:41 PM »
:o ang mahal naman nya 55 lang dito ang alam ko sa quiapo lang din namimili yung nagtitinda dito hmmmmm....... baka wholesale? :D

bka mali ako 50 lang yata then 150 yung solder lead. Ksi nakisuyo lang ako.

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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2008, 05:51:05 PM »
:o ang mahal naman nya 55 lang dito ang alam ko sa quiapo lang din namimili yung nagtitinda dito hmmmmm....... baka wholesale? :D

tip sa pagbili sa quiapo:::::

sabihin niyo sa tindera, "ate di pa ba nagbago ang price? 25 kasi ang huli kong kuha niyang flux(syringe), kuha ulit ako 3"

ganyan ang teknik pag bibili ka sa quiapo, kahit 1st time ka pa lang bibili sa kanya e palabasin mong "suki" ka na nila ;D

pero, 25 petot lang po talaga ang wholesale nyang flux na nasa syringe sa quiapo this month lang ako bumili 3 pcs.
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2009, 03:53:38 AM »
nakakagawa ako nang .006in (.15mm) sa presensitized post ako pictures next time. kinda mahirap i set yung lens from monitor minsan kasi pangit pa optics ko. kasi dinidikit ko lang yung pcb mismo sa screen ko.

19 inch LCD at 1440 x 900

so kung pareho tayo nang monitor ganito ang dot pitch >>>>>>>>>>   |   <<<<<<<<<< yan yung line.
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2009, 03:55:14 AM »
start mo screen saver mo sa 17 minutes para mag black. :)
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Re: etching very thin pcb trace
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2009, 07:11:30 AM »
so you mean,
didikit ko yung pcb sa monitor para madevelop? matry nga. hehe.

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