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Apartment sub-metering project
« on: March 03, 2009, 01:37:59 AM »
On the home page is an article about an electrical power sub-metering system for use in apartment buildings or other installations where there is one main electical power meter feeding several tenants.

I given this a brief look and think I have found a few problems. I have some experience in measuring power but do not claim to be an expert in this field.

First, the schematic appears to have the current transformer wired incorrectly, if it were turned 90 degrees I think the connections would be correct but the burden resistor seems to be missing.

Second, the article describes that during their tests that they found the unit to have varying degrees of inaccuracy. They are converting the AC signals to DC signals for the microprocessor and I wonder if they are just measuring the average values of the voltage and amperage, then multiplying them together to determine the wattage consumed. This would only be valid for a non-reactive load such as an incandescent lamp or resistive heating device. Motors and transformers would cause a phase shift which could easily result in an error of 10% or more (research: "power factor" and "apparent power").

Unless the processor were taking many samples during the AC cycle, it would not be able to determine power factor. The article says that to determine power being consumed that they multiply amperage times voltage. Unless you also multiply this by the power factor, the answer could be wrong.

Aside from the possible phase-shift caused by reactive devices, distortion of the AC waveform could also cause errors in the readings.

If my concerns are valid, it would be good if someone could forward them to the authors of the article.
If I am wrong, comments would be appreciated so that I may learn from my errors.

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Apartment sub-metering project
« on: March 03, 2009, 01:37:59 AM »

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Re: Apartment sub-metering project
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2009, 08:47:14 AM »
^parang may iba png mali sa precision rect...
and also baka nga reactive loads lng cguro kayang basahin nun.not unles magnda ang code na nilagay na pwde mag accept ng reactive load..
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Re: Apartment sub-metering project
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2009, 12:18:50 PM »
Thank you for the response.  Could I have it in english? 
Sorry but I am only fluent in english and machine code (lazy american).

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Re: Apartment sub-metering project
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2009, 02:47:33 PM »
^oops had a typo error..
what I meant was with the current state of the schema posted,it will measure RESISTIVE loads quiet satisfactorily,but unless a REACTIVE load is measured,it will give LOTS of reading error.this kind of simple hardware interface requires lot of complex math computation.this could be easy with skilled PIC programmers. :)
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Re: Apartment sub-metering project
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2009, 04:52:10 PM »
If accuracy is wanted, a fast processor (for high sampling rate) and high resolution ADC (for precision) are required, current and voltage samples must be taken separately (during positive half cycle) to compensate for phase shift caused by reactive loads.

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