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sensor that can detect human body
« on: May 04, 2009, 05:34:22 PM »
we are having a project called  Person counter,ung aming prof suggest na hindi basta bibilangan lng nya ung dadaan,baka kac daw object ung dumaan,kelangang malaman person talaga ung dumaan ,ano po kayang sensor ang pdeng gamitin para ma detect human body?

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sensor that can detect human body
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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 09:36:40 PM »
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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2009, 10:02:56 PM »
siguro thermal sensor. siguro iba naman ang temperature nang tao kumpara sa hayop. baka ibang members meron pang suggestions. 8)
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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2009, 10:22:46 PM »
A PIR sensor detects human body by resolving its temperature compared to the ambient. Yun lang prone ito sa error, kasi any other object that is a little hotter or colder than the surroundings will trigger a count.

Otherwise, mukhang machine vision lang ang uubra dito sa thesis mo... Yung mga ganitong thesis is not for the undergrads. In fact kakaunti lang ang existing system made exclusively for human (facial) detection, like the one now used in UK (i think) select places. Im sure it took an army of PHDs to build this system.

The only possible option I can think of is to require people to press a push button as they pass through.  ;)
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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2009, 10:47:14 PM »
hindi ba pwede mechanical? like yung sa MRT-LRT?
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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2009, 11:11:11 PM »
You'll need to combine sensors for this application.  You can use an  ir beam sensor  or ultrasonic sensor in combination with a PIR sensor.  The PIR sensor will be used to confirm if the object is human or not.

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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2009, 11:28:47 PM »
You'll need to combine sensors for this application.  You can use an  ir beam sensor  or ultrasonic sensor in combination with a PIR sensor.  The PIR sensor will be used to confirm if the object is human or not.

oo nga agree aku   to avoid  false triggering signal / error    we need to combine sensor application...  gaya ng IR sensor for beam-break detector to know na may dumaan, temperature sensor to identify what kind of object pass through based on its temperature, ultrasonic sensor if ders a feed back sound came from a living organism..    & etc...  to combine a specific PIR detector.. 

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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2009, 11:31:11 PM »
pero i think we need more farther studies regarding that circuit...   kasi maraming error   mangyayari....      try natin  hintayin yung  idea & suggestion ng iba...   

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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2009, 05:41:43 PM »
kailangan may camera at gamitan mo ng face detection algorithm or edge detection algorithm para madetect mo kung human nga yung dumaan

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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2009, 07:10:00 PM »
I agree with the idea of using 2 sensors connected in series so that they should both be satisfied to make a count. Yun nga lang may problema pa din talaga sa efficiency naminimize lang yung posible error by using 2 sensors.

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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2009, 07:32:13 PM »
tnx pow sa mga replies,un po ba PIR mahirap bang hanapin d2 un?geh hanap ako ng circuit para dun,kelangan daw talagang ma detect kung human o hindi...

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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2009, 07:56:02 PM »
kailangan may camera at gamitan mo ng face detection algorithm or edge detection algorithm para madetect mo kung human nga yung dumaan

oo nga noh...   pwde din ganun  (-_-)
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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2009, 08:39:56 PM »
You dont need those fancy hitech out of reach techy stuff to achieve your objective.

Just list down qualities or features of humans that can be detected using ordinary sensors and combine these to achieve your result.

Ang human may dalawang paa so gamit ka ng active ir sensor that has to be interrupted twice in a certain amount of time.  Ang humans eh mas mataas ng di hamak sa mga hayop so you could place an ir sensor at a certain height to detect this criteria.  If all the criterias are present, then you can be certain na its human.

Yung PIR sensor actually ay motion detector that relies on heat to detect motion.  Meron siyang sensitivity adjustment so bigger lifeforms like humans will emit higher amount of heat kaya pwede mo rin gamitin as heat sensor to detect human presence but only when it is moving.   

Just combine the outputs of several sensors and couple it with logic and you have your human detector.

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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2009, 08:43:36 PM »
madaming available na PIR sensor sa mga electronics store lalo na sa raon. Yung sensitivuty ng PIR sensor sa pagdetect kung tao talaga o hindi ay hindi ganon kaacurate since body temp lang ng tao ang sinesense nya.

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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2009, 10:13:01 PM »
You dont need those fancy hitech out of reach techy stuff to achieve your objective.

Just list down qualities or features of humans that can be detected using ordinary sensors and combine these to achieve your result.

Ang human may dalawang paa so gamit ka ng active ir sensor that has to be interrupted twice in a certain amount of time.  Ang humans eh mas mataas ng di hamak sa mga hayop so you could place an ir sensor at a certain height to detect this criteria.  If all the criterias are present, then you can be certain na its human.

Yung PIR sensor actually ay motion detector that relies on heat to detect motion.  Meron siyang sensitivity adjustment so bigger lifeforms like humans will emit higher amount of heat kaya pwede mo rin gamitin as heat sensor to detect human presence but only when it is moving.   

Just combine the outputs of several sensors and couple it with logic and you have your human detector.
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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2009, 02:17:32 AM »
i think maganda ung suggestion ni sis hunyango.. since, educational project ito.. maganda na maeexpose sila sa iba't ibang sensors at methods.. at the same time ung designing ng prototype skills nila ay magagamit at maeenhance..for learning na din nila and experience.. pwede nilang paghalohaluin lahat pati ung face detection algorithm (pano po ba un?  :))kung kaya.. group work naman ata eh.. gastos nga lang and time..

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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2009, 06:24:43 AM »
PIR = sense BODY heat
IR beam = for a passing human to "cut" the light
LDR = to sense the shadow of a human passing by

AND the 3 sensors and you will get a valid "HUMAN" passing signal...
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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2009, 07:00:53 AM »
Another way, but much more complicated is to use a camera.
Then using DSP detect faces (face recogition, pattern matching algorithm).
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Re: sensor that can detect human body
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2009, 08:08:14 AM »
I also suggest turnstile (yung gamit sa LRT) then mix it with two IR detector.

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