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Analog Surround Sound
« on: June 18, 2009, 10:01:40 PM »
Sino po ba mahilig sa mga analog amplifiers dito? ;D

May gnagawa kasi ako amplifier na 5.1channel pero analog. Hehehe, pambahay lang.
Mahal kasi DSP and wala ako DSP programmer, wahahahahahaha ;D kaya sinusubukan kong analog.

Alam ko na kung pano madecode 'yung 6 channels from a stereo input.
Kaya lang nagkakaprob talaga ako sa reverb effect ng surround channels.
Hindi ko alam kung pano ang circuit ng effect na ito kung sa analog circuits lang, wahahahaha ;D

Sa MATLAB napagana ko na lahat, wahahahaha, DSP kasi. ;D

Patulong naman po sa mga nakakaalam nito, o mga nakagawa na nito. Thanks!

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Analog Surround Sound
« on: June 18, 2009, 10:01:40 PM »

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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2009, 10:06:26 PM »
grabe 6 channel ako 3 channel lang nagawa left (100w) -subW(200w) - right(100W).

ilang watts per channel mo ?
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2009, 10:14:07 PM »
Wahahahahaha, wala pa ako sa main amp, kasi wala pa budget, ipon pa wahahahaha.

Nasa mga pre-amp and decoder palang ako.

Pero ang pangtest ko ung stereo power amp na gnawa ko na nasa 60W per channel.
Kaya 2 channels at atime ang pagtest, wahahahahaha. ;D

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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2009, 10:14:07 PM »

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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2009, 03:16:05 AM »
try mo na lang ng mga decoder chip na programmed na
sa mga manufacturer. ok din naman ang performance.
the ikaw na gumawa ng pcb layout mo, dagdagan mo na lang
ng DA converters.  :)
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2009, 06:46:27 AM »
 na try nyo nba sir ang Toshiba TA8173AP sound field generator chip? all analog domain p.
 kung gusto ng mas mahabang reverb pwede din mag dagdag ng BBD
(bucket brigade delay) pra analog lahat he he he
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2009, 10:25:20 AM »
heheh BBDs, dinausor reverbs ;D ;D

gumawa na ako ng analog sorround, opamps lang

from 2 chanels to 4 channels hehehe

kelangan talaga dsp DUN

tsaka ung soun field generator pwede rin hehehe
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2009, 12:30:21 PM »
 hafler matrix method 1970s yta lumabas 2
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2009, 10:56:35 PM »
hafler matrix method 1970s yta lumabas 2

Hehehe, opo, hafler matrix po yung basis ng circuits ko.
Pero ayoko kasing mga speakers lang yung mga kinoconect, hehehe


heheh BBDs, dinausor reverbs ;D ;D

gumawa na ako ng analog sorround, opamps lang

from 2 chanels to 4 channels hehehe

kelangan talaga dsp DUN

tsaka ung soun field generator pwede rin hehehe


Hehehe, thanks po sa tip. Wala pa ako idea ng BBD and sound field generator, 'yan ang pag-aaralan ko ngayon, hehehe.
Sana magawa ko na rin ang sakin. Thanks!

na try nyo nba sir ang Toshiba TA8173AP sound field generator chip? all analog domain p.
 kung gusto ng mas mahabang reverb pwede din mag dagdag ng BBD
(bucket brigade delay) pra analog lahat he he he

Hehehe, available po ba yang sound field generator chip na yan? Siguro mahal yan.
Mahirap kasi makakuha ng mga IC dito sa lugar namin, hindi lahat available. Anyway, thanks po sa mga info. Ireresearch ko muna mga circuits nga mga yan, hehehe

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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2009, 08:47:22 AM »
hmmm ung pinakauna kong sorround decoder ay using differential transistors.(hayskul ko pa ginwa)

i-connect lang ung dalawang emitter mula sa preamp ng left and right preamp na configured

as common emitter, then lagyan ng pot sa connected emitters to ground. un na, may

simple sound field generator ka na hehehe
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2009, 08:54:00 AM »
 myron po sa alexan 100+php yta. my project cla sa EE n inimplement ang said chip. Very low external component count. phase shifting caps and a few resistors po. Ang kagandahan po pwede nyo po baguhin ung mga value ng caps para mbago din ung "effect"
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2009, 09:47:02 PM »
Thanks po sir audiomachines and sir woots29!

Sir Woots29, yan po bang sound field generator eh parang delay circuit din? Pwede po bang makita circuit diagram? Hehehe, kung pwede lang po.

Kasi po may nagawa na rin po akong delay circuit para sa surround channels ko, kaya lang wala pang reverb driver yung surround channels ko, hehehe, kulang pa kasi mga nalalaman kong circuits, hehehe, bago nga para sakin yung BBDs and pinag-aaralan ko palang ngayon, wahahahahaha.

And sir Woots29, yun po bang nagawa mong surround sound may left-to-right steering or right-to-left steering?
Kasi po may idea ako kung pano magagawa yung effect na yun sa analog using VCAs. Tama po kaya ang naiisip ko?

Thanks po sa lahat ng tulong niyo! Naeexcite na ako na matapos ko na tong surround sound ko, hehehe, para makapag-enjoy na ng magagandang pelikula na may astig na sound system, hehehe

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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2009, 10:58:21 AM »
^wehehehehe

parang kotse ah may steering :D :D :D

wel its ur option to put steering wheel este balance sa sorrounds mo

wel the sound field is only sorround extraction
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2009, 05:55:30 PM »
Ah hehehe, ang tinutukoy ko po sir ung parang may movement po ung sound from one channel to the other. Un po ba yun?

Salamat po!

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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2009, 06:02:05 PM »
ah ok. wala pa akong alam na analog na ganun. hehehe

DSP talga kelangan ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2009, 07:12:19 PM »
 panner circuit un po ba tinutukoy nyo? sort of ping pong effect? a VCA driven by an LFO ung structure ng ckt noon.
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2009, 11:32:38 AM »
hehehe un ba?

hmm parang di ko pa nabasa yan.
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2009, 02:02:29 PM »
ahhh

pamilyar ako sa circuit. hmm pero tremolo nmn

tnx sir audiom.
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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2009, 01:43:06 PM »
Thanks po sir audiomachines!

Parang ganun din ung idea ko nung una, hehehe, using VCAs and transconductance amps.
Susubukan kong gawin ung circuit, hehehe. Pero mag-eexperiment muna ako.
Meron po ba kayong mga simple circuits ng Voltage-Controlled Amps? para masimulan na, wahahahahaha

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Re: Analog Surround Sound
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2009, 02:15:22 PM »
wala eh hehehe

un ba illagay mo sa sorround?

kung gusto mo

FET na lang ang gamitin mo sa input at LFO

un na hehehe
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