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« on: June 19, 2009, 08:12:18 PM »
Marami ako nitong nakikita, selling or buying through internet,. pero nangyayari ay sinisingil muna ang customer(s) before ipadala ang product or items. which is parang uncomfortable o nagiging awkward sa customer, na naiisip ng customer na baka manloloko ang website na kung saan, nagbayad siya through credit card or any others virtual payments,.

sa computer na subject ko isa ito sa topic namin if pano mabibigyan ng solution, at wala pako maisip.

any Idea ?
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2009, 08:29:07 PM »
Marami ako nitong nakikita, selling or buying through internet,. pero nangyayari ay sinisingil muna ang customer(s) before ipadala ang product or items. which is parang uncomfortable o nagiging awkward sa customer, na naiisip ng customer na baka manloloko ang website na kung saan, nagbayad siya through credit card or any others virtual payments,.

sa computer na subject ko isa ito sa topic namin if pano mabibigyan ng solution, at wala pako maisip.

any Idea ?

it is not a problem with Paypal since puwede ka naman mag-file ng dispute at ibabalik ng Paypal yung nawalang pera sa iyo kapag walang proof na naipakita yung seller na nakarating sa iyo yung binili mong item..
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2009, 08:30:56 PM »
hirap ata nito.. mostly kasi ang user eh nagbabased na lang sa popularity ng site.. sa dami ng positive feedbacks, promotions and referrals..

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2009, 08:56:36 PM »
it is not a problem with Paypal since puwede ka naman mag-file ng dispute at ibabalik ng Paypal yung nawalang pera sa iyo kapag walang proof na naipakita yung seller na nakarating sa iyo yung binili mong item..

ano pagkakaiba ng paypal kes credit card ?
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2009, 09:46:01 PM »
ano pagkakaiba ng paypal kes credit card ?

Paypal is funded by your credit card or bank account..
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2009, 11:32:04 AM »
o parang yung Smart money pala,.

sa e-commerce wedsite ba meron na silang contact na bank ang moderator na nag-momonitor order?

at pano ang process para mai-add sa bank account ng moderator halimbawa o yung may ari ng website yung bayad ng customers, through CC or paypal?
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2009, 11:38:24 AM »
o parang yung Smart money pala,.

sa e-commerce wedsite ba meron na silang contact na bank ang moderator na nag-momonitor order?

at pano ang process para mai-add sa bank account ng moderator halimbawa o yung may ari ng website yung bayad ng customers, through CC or paypal?

sa e-commerce website usually ang tinatanggap nila ay credit card.. in this case, you need a credit card processor, mag-aaply ka sa 2Checkout.com or any other credit card processor.. sila ang mag-aauthorize ng credit card tapos sila kukuha sila ng percentage dun sa mga sales mo as a service charge..

merong payment gateway ang paypal.. ilalagay mo yung script sa website mo tapos kapag may binili sila, papasok na agad sa paypal account mo yung payment.. you can add the bank account of the moderator dun mismo sa paypal account.. usually, Unionbank EON Account ang ginagamit..
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2009, 11:56:28 AM »
wow grabe, ngaun kolang nalaman :)
thanks ng marami.
yung 2checkout.com siya yung nag-vi-verify if valid or invalid yung credit card, then sila rin yung assign ng ibibigay sa may-ari ng company if ilan yung na-credit sa credit card ng customer. tama po ba :)

ito isa pa sa payment na nakikita ko, naexperience ko ito nun nag-apply ako ng passport, to2go (delivery ng BC at passport) yata yun. nagrequest ako ng authentic copy BC sa NSO. tapos sa website nila meron hotline, nun tumawag ako pinabayaran sakin through bank. sa metrobank ako nagbayad, yung metrobank meron sila green silp para sa payment sa process na yun, diretso na yun sa account ng delivery company? at yung special payment green slip na produce ng bank nag tataka ako dahil ang nilagay ko don ay nde bank account kundi yung order number ng request ko. 
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2009, 12:00:31 PM »
wow grabe, ngaun kolang nalaman :)
thanks ng marami.
yung 2checkout.com siya yung nag-vi-verify if valid or invalid yung credit card, then sila rin yung assign ng ibibigay sa may-ari ng company if ilan yung na-credit sa credit card ng customer. tama po ba :)

yes.. sila na ang bahala sa lahat ng credit card processing at pag-charge then credit card fraud verification.. if all is clear, sila na ang magbibigay sa may-ari ng company nung kanyang kita minus the service charge ng 2checkout.com .. puwede rin ang Paypal kasi much easier ang setup and ang interface kumpara sa 2checkout.com ..
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2009, 12:04:42 PM »
mahirap din naman kasi sa side ng seller kung ship out muna 'yung item bago bayaran. kaya sa kahit anong tindahan halos, bayad muna bago bigay 'yung item, except that sa online store, may shipping time pa.
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2009, 12:08:23 PM »
thanks po ng marami sa info :)

so kapag pala nag-reklamo customer if bakit malaki ang nabawas sa credit card niya, dahil sa pagbayad through website. nde lang yung may-ari ng wedsite ang maque-question kundi pati narin yung credit card processor ng wedsite :)

pano kapag nahack yung credit card, pati ba credit card processor kasama  liable :)
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2009, 12:10:27 PM »
mahirap din naman kasi sa side ng seller kung ship out muna 'yung item bago bayaran. kaya sa kahit anong tindahan halos, bayad muna bago bigay 'yung item, except that sa online store, may shipping time pa.

sir sa US yata meron isang company ang nag-ga-guarantee sa mga e-commerce website, para nde malugi, pero yung company rin ang maniningil sa customer. kaya deliver muna before bayad. wala pang ganun dito satin ng ganun meron sila tawag sa company na yun nakalimutan ko lang :)
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2009, 12:11:02 PM »
thanks po ng marami sa info :)

so kapag pala nag-reklamo customer if bakit malaki ang nabawas sa credit card niya, dahil sa pagbayad through website. nde lang yung may-ari ng wedsite ang maque-question kundi pati narin yung credit card processor ng wedsite :)

pano kapag nahack yung credit card, pati ba credit card processor kasama  liable :)

if hacked yung credit card na ginamit pambili ng stuffs, the credit card processor and the seller will take the loss.. ibabalik nila kung magkano yung na-charge dun sa totoong may-ari ng credit card.. ganun talaga ang policy kasi responsibility ng credit card processor na i-verify ng mabuti kung fraudulent yung credit card transaction..
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2009, 12:12:54 PM »
if hacked yung credit card na ginamit pambili ng stuffs, the credit card processor and the seller will take the loss.. ibabalik nila kung magkano yung na-charge dun sa totoong may-ari ng credit card.. ganun talaga ang policy kasi responsibility ng credit card processor na i-verify ng mabuti kung fraudulent yung credit card transaction..

ha pati yung website company.hehehe pano if 2 million ang nahack :) patay na :)
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2009, 12:15:37 PM »
ha pati yung website company.hehehe pano if 2 million ang nahack :) patay na :)

ganun ang policy so wala tayong magagawa.. credit card companies always protect their clients otherwise wala nang mag-aaply ng credit card.. kaya malakas talaga ang tinatawa ng "buyer protection" ..

ang puwede lang magawa nung company to recover their loss is cooperate with the authorities para at least ma-recover yung mga stolen goods.. kung "digital goods" naman ang stolen, well, TY na lang yun..
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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2009, 12:16:01 PM »
sir sa US yata meron isang company ang nag-ga-guarantee sa mga e-commerce website, para nde malugi, pero yung company rin ang maniningil sa customer. kaya deliver muna before bayad. wala pang ganun dito satin ng ganun meron sila tawag sa company na yun nakalimutan ko lang :)

kung small area madali 'yan. pero kung international mahirap dahil ibig sabihin kailangan nila mag-setup. sa Courier may option din naman na COD, pero ang problem naman kung na-ship na at hindi binayaran ng buyer, sagot pa rin ng seller.

ha pati yung website company.hehehe pano if 2 million ang nahack :) patay na :)

ganun talaga. malaki talaga ang risk ng valid seller than sa buyer. may risk na involved, binabayaran pa nila 'yung fees sa paggamit ng online credit card transaction.
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2009, 01:21:02 PM »
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kung small area madali 'yan. pero kung international mahirap dahil ibig sabihin kailangan nila mag-setup. sa Courier may option din naman na COD, pero ang problem naman kung na-ship na at hindi binayaran ng buyer, sagot pa rin ng seller.

yes sir kaya US lang covered nila.

dapat pala talaga focus sa security ang gagawa ng e-commerce :) dapat naka-encrypted siya tapos yung function ng encryption ay nakalagay sa PC ng moderator nde mismo sa code ng website, by calling nalang at kailangan tyung website lang ang makaka-call ng function na un. grabe masakit sa ulo kung iicpn sa pagprogram, pero palgay ko kaya ko.hehe (yabang ko)  :)
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2009, 01:56:43 PM »
sa thesis namin nun 2002 e-commerce kami ang unang nagpropropose nun sa STI recto. nde kami gumamit ng  credit card payment, medical gallery tranding ang company na ginawan namin ng website. bank lang ang payment. ginamit pa namin noon, cgi at borland delphi, hinde pa kasi uso noon ang ASP pinapakilala palang, pero pagdating sa defense, napiltan rin kami na asp ang gamitin.

yung sinasabi mong function jen ay sa order form list yung nakalagay, 2 yung program niyan una yung website pangalawa yung monitoring ng order. yung database ng website at sa monitoring ay parehong naka-connect sa iisang database. bakit. kapag may nag-order sa isang database lang sila mag-a-update sabay dapat, sa website at sa monitoring software.
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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2009, 02:01:44 PM »
mas madali na ngayon gumawa ng ganyan dahil sa mga .net languages, sa security talaga ang mahirap diyan, sa job ko hinde kami gumagawa ng standard ng encryption sa bawat software na denidevelop namin. usually sa encryption method namin ay mathematical operation (*,/,+,-) yan ang basic. sa ascii hinde na madalas namin ginagamit yan,

yung mga function ng conversion ng mga programming languages ay forbiden rin na gamitin. ex sa vb tochar, toint, toasc. bawal gamitin yan pero kung nde naman gaano kadilikado yung website pwedi yan, to be sure kami nalang talaga gumagawa ng function  8) 8) 8)
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2009, 06:54:03 PM »
ok thanks
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